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0 pointsYeGoblynQueenne1y ago0 comments

Who is "we"? I'm not American. Why should I treat American and Russian aggression differently?

And yes, the wars were not directly analogous but the stark reality of the matter is that the US and RUssia are two of the world bullies that are capable of invading anyone they like, and nobody can do anything about it. Again: why should I like one more than the other? Why should anyone, who is not their citizen?

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racional1y ago

Why should I treat American and Russian aggression differently?

One shouldn't, and both should be condemned of course.

And not apologized for, like you are doing here.

YeGoblynQueenneOP1y ago

Just to be clear, I did not "apologize" for anyone. I think you mean that I'm an apologist for someone or other? I should also clarify that, no, I am not. I am a peacenick and a anti-nationalist and I dislike all nations equally, especially the ones that go to war over perceived threats to their territorial integrity or their national interests etc. None of those things are more valuable than human lives.

To be even more clear: those nations include Russia, the US, China, and basically every other national entity with an army that you might want to propose.

For the record, I also dislike, strongly, people on the internet who cannot hold a conversation without insulting their interlocutor, or accusing them of some perceived mind crime.

racional1y ago

I meant in terms of apologetics, in the sense of "vigorous defenses". Which seemed to apply to the first two comments of yours that I responded to.

If that's not what they were, then I misread them. In regard to the peace negotiations -- it does seem (from some of the sibling threads) like you're very quick to grant the Russian side a pass, and to assign an unduly high a likelihood to the possibility that the Ukrainian/Western side simply botched their end of it (because Boris, etc). An assessment that just doesn't hold up in view of how the Russians conducted themselves during those negotiations, as the person responding to you pointed out:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40663892

darthrupert1y ago

You should treat then differently because they are altogether different. When is the last time USA annexed parts of another country?

meiraleal1y ago

ongoing: current American occupation of Syria

Check also: Germany, South Korea and Japan have more American militiamen stationed there than the active duty personnel of the majority of the countries in the world.

HappySweeney1y ago

Do you believe the USA is attempting to make parts of Syria new American states? If not, then this is not an ongoing annexation attempt.

darthrupert1y ago

>ongoing: current American occupation of Syria

You seem to be implying equivalence between a thousand soldier operation and a full scale war comprising of half a million soldiers on both sides.

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racional1y ago

Why should I treat American and Russian aggression differently?

One shouldn't, and both should be condemned of course.

And not apologized for, like you are doing here.

YeGoblynQueenneOP1y ago

To be even more clear: those nations include Russia, the US, China, and basically every other national entity with an army that you might want to propose.

For the record, I also dislike, strongly, people on the internet who cannot hold a conversation without insulting their interlocutor, or accusing them of some perceived mind crime.

racional1y ago

I meant in terms of apologetics, in the sense of "vigorous defenses". Which seemed to apply to the first two comments of yours that I responded to.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40663892

darthrupert1y ago

You should treat then differently because they are altogether different. When is the last time USA annexed parts of another country?

meiraleal1y ago

ongoing: current American occupation of Syria

Check also: Germany, South Korea and Japan have more American militiamen stationed there than the active duty personnel of the majority of the countries in the world.

HappySweeney1y ago

Do you believe the USA is attempting to make parts of Syria new American states? If not, then this is not an ongoing annexation attempt.

darthrupert1y ago

>ongoing: current American occupation of Syria

You seem to be implying equivalence between a thousand soldier operation and a full scale war comprising of half a million soldiers on both sides.

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