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0 pointslibrasteve1y ago0 comments

i think it’s fair to say that perl6 has been an “extremely rocky transition” ultimately it was renamed raku to reflect this and avoid camping on the perl5 version numbering

raku has good package compatibility via Inline::Perl5 and Inline::Python and FFI to languages like Rust and Zig

among the many downsides of the transition, one upside is that raku is a clean sheet of paper and has some interesting new work for example in LLM support

I have started work on a new raku module called Dan::Polars and would welcome contributions from Numpy/Pandas folks with a vision of how to improve the APIs and abstractions … it’s a good place to make a real contribution, help make something new and better and get to grips with some raku and some rust.

just connect via https://github.com/librasteve/raku-Dan-Polars if you are interested and would like to know more

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vessenes1y ago

Thanks for this — Perl 4 was my first serious programming language, and every five or so years I come back and check out what’s up. Seems like a quick raku tour could be fun.

One huge pain point for me in perl 5 was just how incredibly slow CPAN was compared to `go import`, like two orders of magnitude slower. I remember putting up with those times in the ‘90s because package management was a kind of miracle over FTP sites, but it’s a big ask in today’s world.

What’s raku’s story here, out of curiosity?

librasteveOP1y ago

(I suggest you start with https://raku.guide (like the Rust Book) and also take a look at https://docs.raku.org/language/5to6-nutshell)

the raku package manager - zef comes bundled with the rakudo compiler - I use https://rakubrew.org

https://raku.land is a directory of raku packages

I would say that zef is very good (it avoids the frustrations of Python package managers like pip and conda) like perl before it, raku was designed with packages and installers in mind with a concern for a healthy ecosystem

for example, all versions (via the META6.json payload descriptor) carry versioning and the module version descriptor is a built in language type https://docs.raku.org/type/Version that does stuff like this:

  say v1.0.1 ~~ v1.*.1;   # OUTPUT: «True␤»

and this

  zef install Dan::Pandas:ver<4.2.3>:auth<github:jane>:api<1>

and this

  use Dan::Pandas:ver<4.3.2+>:auth<github:jane>:api<1>;

(of course, authors must authenticate to upload modules)

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0 pointslibrasteve1y ago0 comments

i think it’s fair to say that perl6 has been an “extremely rocky transition” ultimately it was renamed raku to reflect this and avoid camping on the perl5 version numbering

raku has good package compatibility via Inline::Perl5 and Inline::Python and FFI to languages like Rust and Zig

among the many downsides of the transition, one upside is that raku is a clean sheet of paper and has some interesting new work for example in LLM support

just connect via https://github.com/librasteve/raku-Dan-Polars if you are interested and would like to know more

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vessenes1y ago

Thanks for this — Perl 4 was my first serious programming language, and every five or so years I come back and check out what’s up. Seems like a quick raku tour could be fun.

What’s raku’s story here, out of curiosity?

librasteveOP1y ago

(I suggest you start with https://raku.guide (like the Rust Book) and also take a look at https://docs.raku.org/language/5to6-nutshell)

the raku package manager - zef comes bundled with the rakudo compiler - I use https://rakubrew.org

https://raku.land is a directory of raku packages

  say v1.0.1 ~~ v1.*.1;   # OUTPUT: «True␤»

and this

  zef install Dan::Pandas:ver<4.2.3>:auth<github:jane>:api<1>

and this

  use Dan::Pandas:ver<4.3.2+>:auth<github:jane>:api<1>;

(of course, authors must authenticate to upload modules)

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