undefined | Better HN

0 pointspndy1y ago0 comments

> All this fuzzy language

That's not the exclusive problem to Microsoft - it happens all around us within the IT world. The corporations stopped acknowledging the permanent "No" anymore and the actual user choice. It's a plain harassment up until you give up and agree to what you get shoveled with.

Whenever I read comments regarding last two Windows versions and issues people had or have with these, or news about newest Microsoft "ideas" - I ask myself, where the hell are regulators?

0 comments

franga20001y ago

> where the hell are regulators?

We have killed them. If a government tries to do anything against a company that isn't a perfect 1:1 mapping to an explicit thing in the law that they are breaking, the company will sue back and win. And if they try to pass such a law, the biggest companies are powerful enough to get rid of them next term, so they don't even try.

0dayz1y ago

You get what you vote for.

If you want less government interference then less regulatory power will exist.

1 more reply

BiteCode_dev1y ago

They are in Europe, and heavily criticized on HN everytime they regulate.

I love GDPR, yet so many complain about it for cookie banners, which are not even what the law requires: There Is No Cookie Banner Law (https://www.bitecode.dev/p/there-is-no-eu-cookie-banner-law)

Numerlor1y ago

Reading through this thread as an user of Windows from the EU most of the issues I see mentioned here are just non-existent, like OneDrive nagging that has never happened to me

pauby1y ago

> just non-existent

You have just been lucky. Nothing more.

A classic case of it doesn't happen on _my computer_ so it must be a lie.

2 more replies

pndyOP1y ago

Author says what I'm repeating since day one when GDPR and these so-called banner with "preferences" were introduced: this should be handled by the browsers.

The idea was good but the interpretation and implementation of this law failed - the banners, cookies aren't as permanent and universal as browser sending the header.

noprocrasted1y ago

Only problem with GDPR is that while the spirit/intention of the law is great (and it even prohibits malicious compliance such as consent prompts that make it more difficult to decline than accept), enforcement is significantly lacking which means it's still more profitable to breach it than respect it.

BiteCode_dev1y ago

I would say the problem is rather that companies are becoming too big to cares. Meta has been fined several times, in total for more than 2 billions. Amazon ? 746 millions. Tik tok? 345 millions. And yet it's a small price to pay for them

rsanek1y ago

did cookie banners exist without the law? largely not, which is why people perceive it to be a "cookie banner law" no matter what is technically written in it.

BiteCode_dev1y ago

Sure, you can also blame condoms for increasing the safety of people cheating on their spouses.

awiesenhofer1y ago

> did cookie banners exist without the law?

Yes!? They existed long before GDPR was even passed.

shakes_mcjunkie1y ago

Happens to me all the time with Google because I'm choosing not to pay for their backup. They constantly bother me about almost running out of space, even with a modal that requires you to use a toggle to dismiss it without accepting. It's gross.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

0 comments

franga20001y ago

> where the hell are regulators?

0dayz1y ago

You get what you vote for.

If you want less government interference then less regulatory power will exist.

1 more reply

BiteCode_dev1y ago

They are in Europe, and heavily criticized on HN everytime they regulate.

I love GDPR, yet so many complain about it for cookie banners, which are not even what the law requires: There Is No Cookie Banner Law (https://www.bitecode.dev/p/there-is-no-eu-cookie-banner-law)

Numerlor1y ago

Reading through this thread as an user of Windows from the EU most of the issues I see mentioned here are just non-existent, like OneDrive nagging that has never happened to me

pauby1y ago

> just non-existent

You have just been lucky. Nothing more.

A classic case of it doesn't happen on _my computer_ so it must be a lie.

2 more replies

pndyOP1y ago

Author says what I'm repeating since day one when GDPR and these so-called banner with "preferences" were introduced: this should be handled by the browsers.

The idea was good but the interpretation and implementation of this law failed - the banners, cookies aren't as permanent and universal as browser sending the header.

noprocrasted1y ago

BiteCode_dev1y ago

rsanek1y ago

did cookie banners exist without the law? largely not, which is why people perceive it to be a "cookie banner law" no matter what is technically written in it.

BiteCode_dev1y ago

Sure, you can also blame condoms for increasing the safety of people cheating on their spouses.

awiesenhofer1y ago

> did cookie banners exist without the law?

Yes!? They existed long before GDPR was even passed.

shakes_mcjunkie1y ago

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse