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0 pointslittlestymaar1y ago0 comments

> Fact is, our social welfare state is unmatched compared to any other country. Nowhere else will you get welfare benefits this high. Our welfare benefits are so high, the sudden drop in benefits reduces benefits from earning more money by insane margins.

It's very funny, because people with the same political opinions as you in my country are absolutely positive that this is the case for my country instead (France).

And in practice they are pretty similar (as are many European systems unsurprisingly, we all draw inspiration on each other) and as someone who knows the French social system fairly well I can assure you that the trope you hear from right wing politicians on TV is nothing but lies.

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selfmodruntime1y ago

Both can be right in their own way. I'm not saying we should get rid of our welfare. I'm just saying our people are missing the point. It's incredible privilege to live here. You think they would get the same welfare in the US, in China, Ghana or Russia? Think again. They should be grateful is what I'm saying.

littlestymaarOP1y ago

No that's not what you're saying, you're saying that they live easily and have no incentive to work, which I'm arguing against. You also said this lack of incentive to work is causing inflation, which I'm also arguing against.

Now I agree with you that even though their live is still tough, they are still very lucky to live in Germany as opposed to many other places on earth.

But that wasn't the topic and you moved the goalpost.

selfmodruntime1y ago

> No that's not what you're saying, you're saying that they live easily and have no incentive to work

Well you‘re free to quote me on that. I haven‘t been saying this at all.

> which I'm arguing against.

No, you’re arguing for falsehoods. Posters here are stating that things that are covered aren‘t and that people on Bürgergeld live in abhorrent poverty, which is demonstrably untrue.

> You also said this lack of incentive to work is causing inflation, which I'm also arguing against.

I haven‘t. Again, please do quote me.

> But that wasn't the topic and you moved the goalpost.

No, the topic was that you (among others) think people on Bürgergeld starve, are in dire need of heating and live in depressed states for lack of funding. These are lies. You‘re lying. I’ve no idea why.

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0 pointslittlestymaar1y ago0 comments

It's very funny, because people with the same political opinions as you in my country are absolutely positive that this is the case for my country instead (France).

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littlestymaarOP1y ago

Now I agree with you that even though their live is still tough, they are still very lucky to live in Germany as opposed to many other places on earth.

But that wasn't the topic and you moved the goalpost.

selfmodruntime1y ago

> No that's not what you're saying, you're saying that they live easily and have no incentive to work

Well you‘re free to quote me on that. I haven‘t been saying this at all.

> which I'm arguing against.

No, you’re arguing for falsehoods. Posters here are stating that things that are covered aren‘t and that people on Bürgergeld live in abhorrent poverty, which is demonstrably untrue.

> You also said this lack of incentive to work is causing inflation, which I'm also arguing against.

I haven‘t. Again, please do quote me.

> But that wasn't the topic and you moved the goalpost.

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