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0 pointssylware1y ago0 comments

How do you want to be taken seriously if you don't see the convolution of the syntax of c++ and rust? You are going against an absolute truth.

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whytevuhuni1y ago

Oh, I absolutely see it.

My point was that it's necessary. How would you implement the same features Rust and C++ have, without garbage collection, but with simpler syntax?

sylwareOP1y ago

So you are very careful not to depend on any of their toxic complex features. In the end, better not use them at all.

Even plain and simple C99 compilers can be reasonably written by a solo dev, so a motivated small team...

whytevuhuni1y ago

I do depend on their features, and I see the value in doing that.

For example, at $WORK I had to reimplement Apache's mod_rewrite.c in Rust, and I made it 100x faster for our particular use-case.

I could've done that in C as well, sure, but the simplicity of the C language just moves the complexity to the code itself; whereas, with Rust, I whipped out a prototype in just 3 days, and was able to freely pass around pointers to data, with zero allocations, zero copying, and every time it compiled I knew it was guaranteed to be safe.

You can't get that safety in C. You can't get that speed in Java.

You can't do this in any other language that does not have these features. I absolutely agree that the syntax is horrible... but I see no other way to achieve this.

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whytevuhuni1y ago

Oh, I absolutely see it.

My point was that it's necessary. How would you implement the same features Rust and C++ have, without garbage collection, but with simpler syntax?

sylwareOP1y ago

So you are very careful not to depend on any of their toxic complex features. In the end, better not use them at all.

Even plain and simple C99 compilers can be reasonably written by a solo dev, so a motivated small team...

whytevuhuni1y ago

I do depend on their features, and I see the value in doing that.

For example, at $WORK I had to reimplement Apache's mod_rewrite.c in Rust, and I made it 100x faster for our particular use-case.

You can't get that safety in C. You can't get that speed in Java.

You can't do this in any other language that does not have these features. I absolutely agree that the syntax is horrible... but I see no other way to achieve this.

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