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0 pointsassimpleaspossi1y ago0 comments

fwiw, here's my results.

Every question I've asked of chatGPT, meta and Gemini have returned results that were either obvious or wrong. Pointing out how wrong the answers returned got the obvious, "I apologize" response which returned an obvious answer.

I consider all these AI engines to be interactive search engines where the results need to be double checked. The only thing these engines do, for me perhaps, is save some search time so I don't have to click around on a lot of sites to scroll for some semblance of an answer to verify.

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runamuck1y ago

I still get a lot of LLM "memes", for example "In today's digital landscape" or "is crucial." Also, Liang Et al noted a 10x increase in certain words like "meticulous" or "intricate" since the introduction of LLMs.

jen729w1y ago

Every question?

If it’s returning results that were obvious, why were you asking the question?

And I don’t believe that the other ~50% were wrong.

> The only thing these engines do, for me perhaps, is save some search time so I don't have to click around on a lot of sites to scroll for some semblance of an answer to verify.

This sounds like a valuable service.

jazzyjackson1y ago

IME they basically rephrase the information I've put into it, rarely adding anything I didn't already imply I knew by my formulation of the question

Something to keep in mind is that gambling rules apply: if enough people flip coins, there is always someone experiencing a winning streak and someone experiencing a losing streak and majority that gets a mixed bag of roughly breaking even (mediocre usefulness and a waste of time)

my first week of using GPT4 every day I experienced great answer after great answer, and I was convinced the world would change in a matter of months, that natural language translation was now a solved problem etc etc

But my luck changed, and now I get some good answers and some idiotic answers, so it's mostly not worth my time. Some people never get a good answer in their few dice rolls before writing off the technology

jeffhuys1y ago

Well, time to run it locally then :) Check out ollama.com. llama 3.1 is pretty crazy, especially if you can run the 405B one. Otherwise, use Mistral/Mixtral or something similar.

ghm21801y ago

> The only thing these engines do, for me perhaps, is save some search time.

This. Saving time(or money if you see them as the same) is the whole point actually.

Intelligence is supposed to be in the context of a shared Goal or beliefs. In your case and case of most humans time and money is the context.

Are ant(insect) networks intelligent? Possibly, They do help millions of them communicate quickly. But ants don't have a brain.

Are beings that make decisions without conscious choices intelligent? Possibly, if they could escape death by amazing ability at any instant. But these beings don't have a frontal cortex that can make decisions by rational inquiry.

stevenjgarner1y ago

> But ants don't have a brain.

Ants have a brain, albeit a small one - some 250,000 nerve cells vs 100 billion neurons in the human brain [1]

It is somewhat like saying an Intel 4004 is not really a microprocessor as it only has 2,300 transistors vs an Apple M4 with 28 billion transistors.

[1] https://www.smorescience.com/do-ants-have-brains/

ghm21801y ago

Debating this point is a bit like bike shedding and besides the point. The point is they can't think nearly as closely like humans, but a network of them can seemingly do intelligent things. Intelligence is only about shared goals and beliefs with an agent(the other ants in this example) and achieving them.

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runamuck1y ago

jen729w1y ago

Every question?

If it’s returning results that were obvious, why were you asking the question?

And I don’t believe that the other ~50% were wrong.

> The only thing these engines do, for me perhaps, is save some search time so I don't have to click around on a lot of sites to scroll for some semblance of an answer to verify.

This sounds like a valuable service.

jazzyjackson1y ago

IME they basically rephrase the information I've put into it, rarely adding anything I didn't already imply I knew by my formulation of the question

jeffhuys1y ago

Well, time to run it locally then :) Check out ollama.com. llama 3.1 is pretty crazy, especially if you can run the 405B one. Otherwise, use Mistral/Mixtral or something similar.

ghm21801y ago

> The only thing these engines do, for me perhaps, is save some search time.

This. Saving time(or money if you see them as the same) is the whole point actually.

Intelligence is supposed to be in the context of a shared Goal or beliefs. In your case and case of most humans time and money is the context.

Are ant(insect) networks intelligent? Possibly, They do help millions of them communicate quickly. But ants don't have a brain.

stevenjgarner1y ago

> But ants don't have a brain.

Ants have a brain, albeit a small one - some 250,000 nerve cells vs 100 billion neurons in the human brain [1]

It is somewhat like saying an Intel 4004 is not really a microprocessor as it only has 2,300 transistors vs an Apple M4 with 28 billion transistors.

[1] https://www.smorescience.com/do-ants-have-brains/

ghm21801y ago

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