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0 pointssomat1y ago0 comments

To be fair, and note that I think of the hdmi foundation as the bad guys.

hdmi was not an alternative to display port, display port did not exist yet. it was an alternative to dvi, really hdmi is dvi with a sound channel and drm. And as much as I dislike the hdmi foundation I can see the benefit here.

as to hdmi vs display port... I have no idea why you don't see more display port, VESA has a proven track record as the nicer standards body, display port is a better system. probably just inertia at this point.

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atoav1y ago

As a media tech guy (running the media tech department of a university, which includes a DCI conform cinema): absolutely everybody hates HDMI. It is unreliable as hell, both physically and as a protocol. It tries to be too much to too many people and most devices, including expensive "pro" gear includes unchangeable random weirdness like ignoring EDIDs or forcing them onto you, that is documented nowhere and you can only find these things out when you buy it.

Add to that the fact that consumers/users can break the picture/sound in 100 different ways on their devices and you get a veritable support nightmare.

I wish it was just DVI+ but it does so much more.

Rinzler891y ago

Isn't this why VGA is still widely used everywhere? It always just works no matter what even when connector or pins are damaged since there's no digital handshake or error correction just a basic analog pipeline.

atoav1y ago

I don't know, at least here (Europe) VGA has pretty much died out in all but legacy applications. The true pro format would be SDI using BNC connectors.

But I guess HDMI is going to be replaced by USB-C in the long run. Especially since the "everything-connector" also doing Video makes more sense than the video-connector also doing everything.

paulmd1y ago

> unchangeable random weirdness like ignoring EDIDs or forcing them onto you, that is documented nowhere and you can only find these things out when you buy it.

FWIW: https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/5megt2xqmlryafj...

Sadly this is not entirely a HDMI-specific problem either, he has a displayport feeder too. Also DisplayPort had many problems with disconnects/sleep state for many years, especially surrounding EUP Compliance/EUP Deep Sleep mode. I wouldn't say DisplayPort monitors were relatively bulletproof until the GSync Compatible generation finally rolled around in 2019-2020.

godzillabrennus1y ago

I think interface change fatigue is real. DisplayPort has been around but there wasn’t a compelling reason to use it when displays had hdmi ports.

People are also looking to USB-C as the next iteration in display connectivity because it does “all of the things” from a consumers perspective.

Dalewyn1y ago

Most people will use the path of least resistance.

Many people/organizations still use VGA and ketchup-mustard-onion cables to this day if they still do the job, let alone HDMI.

account421y ago

Shouldn't it be mayo if you are going with a condiment theme?

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seba_dos11y ago

At least video over USB-C is DisplayPort, so there's hope.

cardiffspaceman1y ago

I used a plasma panel, vintage 2004 (retired in 2016 with no noticeable burnin), that had a DVI connector with HDCP support. If it had not supported HDCP, I could not have connected my cable box to this panel.

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atoav1y ago

Add to that the fact that consumers/users can break the picture/sound in 100 different ways on their devices and you get a veritable support nightmare.

I wish it was just DVI+ but it does so much more.

Rinzler891y ago

atoav1y ago

I don't know, at least here (Europe) VGA has pretty much died out in all but legacy applications. The true pro format would be SDI using BNC connectors.

But I guess HDMI is going to be replaced by USB-C in the long run. Especially since the "everything-connector" also doing Video makes more sense than the video-connector also doing everything.

paulmd1y ago

> unchangeable random weirdness like ignoring EDIDs or forcing them onto you, that is documented nowhere and you can only find these things out when you buy it.

FWIW: https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/5megt2xqmlryafj...

godzillabrennus1y ago

I think interface change fatigue is real. DisplayPort has been around but there wasn’t a compelling reason to use it when displays had hdmi ports.

People are also looking to USB-C as the next iteration in display connectivity because it does “all of the things” from a consumers perspective.

Dalewyn1y ago

Most people will use the path of least resistance.

Many people/organizations still use VGA and ketchup-mustard-onion cables to this day if they still do the job, let alone HDMI.

account421y ago

Shouldn't it be mayo if you are going with a condiment theme?

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seba_dos11y ago

At least video over USB-C is DisplayPort, so there's hope.

cardiffspaceman1y ago

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