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0 pointspdonis1y ago0 comments

> There's some boundary

But there's nothing that says that boundary has to be birth. It would depend on when you think a person exists. Some people would say that happens at conception. Others would say it doesn't happen until well after birth (indeed some philosophers have said it doesn't fully happen until adulthood).

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immibis1y ago

Is evolving into something with purpose also a purpose? Then unfertilized eggs have a purpose - to become fertilized - and if you aren't making that happen nonstop it's as bad as killing someone.

pdonisOP1y ago

The article says every person has a purpose. As I said before, people's opinions might differ on exactly when a person exists during the human developmental process, but as far as I know nobody has ever argued that unfertilized eggs are persons.

(Note that unfertilized eggs do not "evolve into" humans--only fertilized eggs do. So even on its own terms your argument is not valid.)

immibis1y ago

Unfertilized eggs have the purpose of turning into fertilized eggs, which either are people or have the purpose of turning into people.

I think if fertilized eggs are people, so are unfertilized eggs. There's really not much difference between them.

pdonisOP1y ago

> Unfertilized eggs have the purpose of turning into fertilized eggs

The article doesn't say or imply this. Unfertilized eggs aren't persons, and the article only says every person has a purpose.

> I think if fertilized eggs are people, so are unfertilized eggs. There's really not much difference between them.

Fertilization doesn't count as "much difference" to you? Hmm.

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immibis1y ago

Is evolving into something with purpose also a purpose? Then unfertilized eggs have a purpose - to become fertilized - and if you aren't making that happen nonstop it's as bad as killing someone.

pdonisOP1y ago

(Note that unfertilized eggs do not "evolve into" humans--only fertilized eggs do. So even on its own terms your argument is not valid.)

immibis1y ago

Unfertilized eggs have the purpose of turning into fertilized eggs, which either are people or have the purpose of turning into people.

I think if fertilized eggs are people, so are unfertilized eggs. There's really not much difference between them.

pdonisOP1y ago

> Unfertilized eggs have the purpose of turning into fertilized eggs

The article doesn't say or imply this. Unfertilized eggs aren't persons, and the article only says every person has a purpose.

> I think if fertilized eggs are people, so are unfertilized eggs. There's really not much difference between them.

Fertilization doesn't count as "much difference" to you? Hmm.

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