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0 pointssonofhans1y ago0 comments

I believe that the iPad behavior you describe is intentional. I’m not sure I’m right here, and there are tradeoffs. I get frustrated with it too. But I think Apple is going for clarity, lack of ambiguity.

If your text remained in place but the control were not focused, what would that control then indicate? In Safari now it _always_ indicates (a) the current page, or (b) your current typing. To do otherwise would be to create a third state: “Used to be typing.” Then it would no longer unambiguously indicate the current state.

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layer81y ago

This is only tangentially related, but the Safari address bar already does not always indicate the current state, specifically when pages take time loading and when going back and forth in history. There is some kind of broken synchronization between page display and address bar, in conjunction with page loading timeouts.

That being said, I would be fine with an "address bar has been edited but not commited yet" state. It's how most other (desktop?) browsers work and it's not an issue.

thelastparadise1y ago

Yep it's just pure jank. Even Apple (especially post-Jobs) can produce jank.

aag1y ago

I've never understood the claim that Apple's UIs are better than others'. That wasn't true while Jobs was around, and it isn't true now. Apple Photos, for example, loses keystrokes every time I create a new album. That's been true for years. And Time Machine randomly drops files from backups. Linux isn't perfect, but my daily experience using it has been far superior for years.

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IanCal1y ago

That doesn't sound too complicated? There's two things here being conflated, the view and the data.

You can show the current state when not in focus and show the edit state when in focus.

Or view it from the angle of the input. Show the current state or edited, but the input device could be smart enough to auto-fill a field if you click off and click back onto it within a short time period.

rty321y ago

I don't know if it's a Windows/Mac thing, click/touch thing, or Apple vs others thing. I do notice that on Chrome/Firefox/Edge on Windows, when you click away from address bar after modifying the URL, it does not revert the value. Actually same on Android.

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