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0 pointsrichardw1y ago0 comments

A 12 year old that doesn’t sleep, eat, or forget, learns anything within seconds, can replicate and work together with fast as light communication and no data loss when doing so. Arrives out of the womb knowing everything the internet knows. Can work on one problem until it gets it right. Doesn’t get stale or old. Only had emotion if it’s useful. Can do math and simulate. Doesn’t get bored. Can theoretically improve its own design and run experiments with aforementioned focus, simulation ability, etc.

What could you do at 12, with half of these advantages? Choose any of them, then give yourself infinite time to use them.

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bad_user1y ago

A 12 year old that doesn't interact with the world.

Many believe that AGI will happen in robots, and not in online services, simply because interacting with the environment might be a prerequisite for developing consciousness.

You mentioned boredom, which is interesting, as boredom may also be a trait of intelligence. An interesting question is if it will want to live at all. Humans have all these pleasure sensors and programming for staying alive and reproducing. The unburdened AGI in your description might not have good reasons to live. Marvin, the depressed robot, might become real.

richardwOP1y ago

I’m not sure, but it’s possible Stephen Hawking would have been fine with becoming digital, assuming he could keep all the traits he valued. He had a pretty low data communication rate, interacted digitally and did more than most humans can. Give him access to anything digital at an high speed and he’d have had a field day. If he could stay off Twitter.

cdchn1y ago

>simply because interacting with the environment might be a prerequisite for developing consciousness.

We can't even define what consciousness is yet, let alone whats required to develop it.

bad_user1y ago

We may not be able to fully define Consciousness, but we can observe it in humans and develop falsifiable hypotheses, of which there are several.

Take a look at this paper: https://osf.io/preprints/osf/mtgn7

SoftTalker1y ago

Why do we assume an AGI would not be forgetful or would never get bored?

richardwOP1y ago

Because we can change the hardware or software to be what we want. It can write to storage and read it, like we can but faster.

pstuart1y ago

And then with advancement, reaches teenage maturity and tells everyone to fuck off.

thordenmark1y ago

As someone who has teenagers right now, I can confirm that this is accurate.

rktan1y ago

A 12 year old could determine that "AI" is boring and counterproductive for humanity and switch off a computer or data center. Greta Thunberg did similar for the climate, perhaps we need a new child saint who fights "AI".

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bad_user1y ago

A 12 year old that doesn't interact with the world.

Many believe that AGI will happen in robots, and not in online services, simply because interacting with the environment might be a prerequisite for developing consciousness.

richardwOP1y ago

cdchn1y ago

>simply because interacting with the environment might be a prerequisite for developing consciousness.

We can't even define what consciousness is yet, let alone whats required to develop it.

bad_user1y ago

We may not be able to fully define Consciousness, but we can observe it in humans and develop falsifiable hypotheses, of which there are several.

Take a look at this paper: https://osf.io/preprints/osf/mtgn7

SoftTalker1y ago

Why do we assume an AGI would not be forgetful or would never get bored?

richardwOP1y ago

Because we can change the hardware or software to be what we want. It can write to storage and read it, like we can but faster.

pstuart1y ago

And then with advancement, reaches teenage maturity and tells everyone to fuck off.

thordenmark1y ago

As someone who has teenagers right now, I can confirm that this is accurate.

rktan1y ago

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