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0 pointsflemhans1y ago0 comments

Rented a flat in Tokyo for a month too as a tourist. But it wasn't cheap. Around $1500/month, in 2011. But it was 3 rooms, and very nice. So maybe not so bad, actually? But then again, it was many years ago.

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digging1y ago

I feel like everyone is missing "in 2011".

Klonoar1y ago

For whatever reason, people in our generation seem completely unaware of how often they cite things from 15-20 years ago.

I've taken to pointing out that it's like if someone in the 90s used advice from the 70s. For whatever reason, it tends to put things in perspective timeframe-wise.

flemhansOP1y ago

I'd still like the data point. Disclaimer: I was the old fart who posted that.

weberer1y ago

Yeah, that's $2,102.58 in 2024 dollars due to a 40.2% cumulative rate of inflation since then according to usinflationcalculator.com

shiroiushi1y ago

We're talking about apartments in Japan, not the US. The high inflation rate in the US doesn't apply here.

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Foobar85681y ago

3 rooms, in Tokyo, for a month, is bloody cheap unless I miss something.

MichaelZuo1y ago

Pretty much all non-luxury housing in Tokyo is built to a much lower standard than equivalent housing built in say Canada or the US in the same time period.

Much thinner wall insulation, single glazed windows (until recently), much smaller elevators in high rises, etc…

So on a quality and square footage adjusted basis it’s still quite expensive.

shiroiushi1y ago

Not really: the difference is that "lower standard" housing of the same age simply doesn't exist in the US. You want a small, 20-30 year old apartment in a decent building with small elevators and everything is maintained well and isn't broken, and you don't want roommates, and at an affordable price for you on your non-tech job paycheck? You can't have that in a decent American city; it doesn't exist. It's either some very expensive "luxury" apartment (where stuff is still broken, but hey, it has granite countertops and new appliances that'll break down in a year!) where you'll need roommates, or some nasty shithole (where you'll probably still need a rooomate).

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Twisol1y ago

My studio apartment in California is $1500/month. At the same price, I would be in a 3-room Tokyo flat yesterday!

thaumasiotes1y ago

I just left an apartment in Shanghai that was two bedrooms, a bathroom, and a kitchen for $700 / month. I was advised that prices have come down over the last year, so that if I was planning to renew my lease I should negotiate a lower price.

fragmede1y ago

And that's on the cheaper end of California!

Twisol1y ago

It really is! I got very, very lucky for the area I'm in, believe me. I'm not moving out until I'm out of the area for good.

soperj1y ago

Studio in BC for over $2500 a month.

dragonwriter1y ago

Well, yeah, I bet that studio was substantially cheaper in 2011, though, which was the date on the Tokyo apartment.

CPLX1y ago

That is comically cheap.

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digging1y ago

I feel like everyone is missing "in 2011".

Klonoar1y ago

For whatever reason, people in our generation seem completely unaware of how often they cite things from 15-20 years ago.

I've taken to pointing out that it's like if someone in the 90s used advice from the 70s. For whatever reason, it tends to put things in perspective timeframe-wise.

flemhansOP1y ago

I'd still like the data point. Disclaimer: I was the old fart who posted that.

weberer1y ago

Yeah, that's $2,102.58 in 2024 dollars due to a 40.2% cumulative rate of inflation since then according to usinflationcalculator.com

shiroiushi1y ago

We're talking about apartments in Japan, not the US. The high inflation rate in the US doesn't apply here.

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Foobar85681y ago

3 rooms, in Tokyo, for a month, is bloody cheap unless I miss something.

MichaelZuo1y ago

Pretty much all non-luxury housing in Tokyo is built to a much lower standard than equivalent housing built in say Canada or the US in the same time period.

Much thinner wall insulation, single glazed windows (until recently), much smaller elevators in high rises, etc…

So on a quality and square footage adjusted basis it’s still quite expensive.

shiroiushi1y ago

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Twisol1y ago

My studio apartment in California is $1500/month. At the same price, I would be in a 3-room Tokyo flat yesterday!

thaumasiotes1y ago

fragmede1y ago

And that's on the cheaper end of California!

Twisol1y ago

It really is! I got very, very lucky for the area I'm in, believe me. I'm not moving out until I'm out of the area for good.

soperj1y ago

Studio in BC for over $2500 a month.

dragonwriter1y ago

Well, yeah, I bet that studio was substantially cheaper in 2011, though, which was the date on the Tokyo apartment.

CPLX1y ago

That is comically cheap.

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