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0 pointsdkersten1y ago0 comments

Most frontend frameworks come with usable templates. Setting up a new Vite React project and getting to a formatted hello world can be done in half an hour tops.

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ileonichwiesz1y ago

Half an hour is still an overestimation, most of these frontend tools go from 0 to hello world in a single CLI command.

TeMPOraL1y ago

On a good day, when you're using the most recent right version of MacOS, when all of the frontend tool's couple thousand dependencies isn't transiently incompatible with everything else, yes.

(If no, AI probably won't help you here either. Frontend stuff moves too fast, and there's too much of it. But then perhaps the AI model could tell you that the frontend tool you're using is a ridiculous overkill for your problem anyway.)

frde_me1y ago

I'll be honest, I've never had the command line tool to setup a React / NextJS / Solid / Astro / Svelt / any framework app fail to make something that runs, ever

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namaria1y ago

It takes me all of 5 minutes with Phoenix

dkerstenOP1y ago

Exactly, the idea that it would take a weekend seems crazy to me. It’s certainly not something I need AI for.

williamdclt1y ago

Yep, it will likely work and do what it's supposed to do. But what it's supposed to do is probably only 90% of what you want: try to do anything out of what the boilerplate is setup for and you're in for hours of pain. Want SWC instead of TSC? Eslint wasn't setup, or not like you want? Prettier isn't integrated with ESlint? You want Typescript project references? Something about ES modules vs CJS? Hours and hours and hours of pain.

I understand all this stuff better than the average (although not a top 10%), and I'd be ashamed to put a number of the amount of hours I've lost on setting up boilerplate _even_ having used some sort of official generator

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