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0 pointsoneeyedpigeon1y ago0 comments

I think "no jaywalking because safety" would make more sense if crosswalks were totally safe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in NY, can't traffic move over crosswalks even against traffic lights, in some circumstances? I always find that confusing-and frightening!

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wahern1y ago

New York City is actually one of the few US jurisdictions that DO NOT permit right turns on red as a default rule.

tsimionescu1y ago

In certain parts of the USA, cars are allowed to turn right from the first lane even on a red light, unless there is some explicit sign prohibiting it in that intersection.

leptons1y ago

Yes, and in that case the car has to yield to the pedestrian, if the pedestrian has the right of way. It's really very simple, and in every basic driving test.

vel0city1y ago

The problem is the driver is likely looking to the left to see if it's safe to quickly pull out and not bother looking to their right for that pedestrian stepping out into the intersection.

I've been lightly hit a few times because of people like that.

I've also almost been hit by people ignoring the stop line and stopping abruptly in the crosswalk area immediately in front of me.

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fragmede1y ago

Unless expressly prohibited, eg by said sign, right-turn-on-red defaults to being legal across vthe US.

ssl-31y ago

Unless I'm missing something: Defining traffic laws is something that the states do on their own, and these aren't things that the federal government generally gets involved with.

Thus, there are 50 different sets of these laws, plus DC. Any similarities between them may be nothing more than incidental.

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kube-system1y ago

Not entirely. Right-on-red is by default illegal in NYC, and will be soon in DC and Atlanta.

Also a good number of states prohibit right-on-red by default when the red light is in the shape of an arrow.

nobody99991y ago

>Unless expressly prohibited, eg by said sign, right-turn-on-red defaults to being legal across vthe US.

It is exactly the opposite within the confines of New York City[0], where right on red is expressly prohibited, unless a sign says otherwise.

[0] https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/ssi09_rightonred....

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wahern1y ago

New York City is actually one of the few US jurisdictions that DO NOT permit right turns on red as a default rule.

tsimionescu1y ago

In certain parts of the USA, cars are allowed to turn right from the first lane even on a red light, unless there is some explicit sign prohibiting it in that intersection.

leptons1y ago

Yes, and in that case the car has to yield to the pedestrian, if the pedestrian has the right of way. It's really very simple, and in every basic driving test.

vel0city1y ago

The problem is the driver is likely looking to the left to see if it's safe to quickly pull out and not bother looking to their right for that pedestrian stepping out into the intersection.

I've been lightly hit a few times because of people like that.

I've also almost been hit by people ignoring the stop line and stopping abruptly in the crosswalk area immediately in front of me.

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fragmede1y ago

Unless expressly prohibited, eg by said sign, right-turn-on-red defaults to being legal across vthe US.

ssl-31y ago

Unless I'm missing something: Defining traffic laws is something that the states do on their own, and these aren't things that the federal government generally gets involved with.

Thus, there are 50 different sets of these laws, plus DC. Any similarities between them may be nothing more than incidental.

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kube-system1y ago

Not entirely. Right-on-red is by default illegal in NYC, and will be soon in DC and Atlanta.

Also a good number of states prohibit right-on-red by default when the red light is in the shape of an arrow.

nobody99991y ago

>Unless expressly prohibited, eg by said sign, right-turn-on-red defaults to being legal across vthe US.

It is exactly the opposite within the confines of New York City[0], where right on red is expressly prohibited, unless a sign says otherwise.

[0] https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/ssi09_rightonred....

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