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0 pointslolinder1y ago0 comments

Being one of 12+ witnesses in a lawsuit where the facts are hardly in dispute is not the same as being a whistleblower. The key questions in this lawsuit are not and never were going to come down to insider information—OpenAI does not dispute that they trained on copyrighted material, they dispute that it was illegal for them to do so.

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bobthecowboy1y ago

It seems like it would matter if they internally believed/discussed it being illegal for them to do so, but then did it anyway and publicly said they felt they were in the clear.

Filligree1y ago

That could matter for the judgement if it's found to be illegal. But OpenAI does not get to decide that what they're doing is illegal.

lyu072821y ago

So the lawyers who said they had "possession of information that would be helpful to their case" were misleading? Your whole rationalization seems very biased. He raised public awareness (including details of) of some wrongdoing he perceived at the company and was most likely going to testify about those wrongdoings, that qualifies as a whistleblower in my book.

lolinderOP1y ago

> "possession of information that would be helpful to their case" were misleading?

I didn't say that, but helpful comes on a very large spectrum, and lawyers have other words for people who have information that is crucial to their case.

> that qualifies as a whistleblower in my book.

I'm not trying to downplay his contribution, I'm questioning the integrity of the title of TFA. You have only to skim this comment section to see how many people have jumped to the conclusion that Sam Altman must have wanted this guy dead.

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