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0 pointsbangaladore1y ago0 comments

Does everyone have "legal" access to YouTube.

In theory that should matter to something like Open(Closed)Ai. But who knows.

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dheera1y ago

I mean, I have trained myself on Youtube.

Why can't a silicon being train itself on Youtube as well?

dmonitor1y ago

Because silicon is a robot. A camcorder can't catch a flick with me in the theater even if I dress it up like a muppet.

the_sleaze_1y ago

Not with that attitude.

A corporation "is a person" with all the rights that come along with that - free speech etc.

dheera1y ago

What if I'm part-carbon, part-silicon?

Like, a blind person with vision restored by silicon eyes?

Do I not have rights to run whatever firmware I want on those eyes, because it's part of my body?

Okay, so what if that firmware could hypothetically save and train AI models?

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lexandstuff1y ago

The difference is that you didn't need to scrape millions of videos from YouTube with residential proxy network scrapers to train yourself.

dheera1y ago

Only because I'm significantly more intelligent than ChatGPT, so I can achieve its level of competency on a lot of things with a thousand videos instead of a million videos.

If it just reduces to an issue of data efficiency, AI research will eventually get there though.

jillyboel1y ago

Humans have rights, machines don't.

BriggyDwiggs421y ago

When a company trains an AI model on something, and then that company sells access to the ai model, the company, not the ai model, is the being violating copyright. If Jimmy makes an android in his garage and gives it free will, then it trains itself on youtube, i doubt anyone would have an issue.

golol1y ago

If OpenAI training on youtube videos violates copyright then so does Google training on them.

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dheera1y ago

I mean, I have trained myself on Youtube.

Why can't a silicon being train itself on Youtube as well?

dmonitor1y ago

Because silicon is a robot. A camcorder can't catch a flick with me in the theater even if I dress it up like a muppet.

the_sleaze_1y ago

Not with that attitude.

A corporation "is a person" with all the rights that come along with that - free speech etc.

dheera1y ago

What if I'm part-carbon, part-silicon?

Like, a blind person with vision restored by silicon eyes?

Do I not have rights to run whatever firmware I want on those eyes, because it's part of my body?

Okay, so what if that firmware could hypothetically save and train AI models?

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lexandstuff1y ago

The difference is that you didn't need to scrape millions of videos from YouTube with residential proxy network scrapers to train yourself.

dheera1y ago

Only because I'm significantly more intelligent than ChatGPT, so I can achieve its level of competency on a lot of things with a thousand videos instead of a million videos.

If it just reduces to an issue of data efficiency, AI research will eventually get there though.

jillyboel1y ago

Humans have rights, machines don't.

BriggyDwiggs421y ago

golol1y ago

If OpenAI training on youtube videos violates copyright then so does Google training on them.

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