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0 pointslenkite1y ago0 comments

> By far the largest components of spending are Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and defence.

Sure..and all hidden waste projects can be fit into those 3 categories. Things like federal funding on hotels for illegal immigrants, including many millions on unused hotel rooms. ~$400 per person per night for illegal aliens. ~$80+ million USD in a few months.

> DOGE is BS.

Basically DOGE is only BS if you think fraud and waste are not BS. Why don't you actually look at the large number of waste projects on https://x.com/DOGE before saying it is BS ?

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svara1y ago

A lot of those examples are just meaningless without context and some are clearly framed in a way to make them sound ridiculous.

NIH funding on addiction research seems pretty relevant given what's going on in the US?

But the way they write it it's "injecting dogs with cocaine" or "giving cocaine to lonely mice". Very funny I guess?

XajniN1y ago

While the research itself is probably/potentially useful, the price is hardly justified.

rgmerk1y ago

US federal budget expenditures in 2023 were a little over six trillion dollars.

Eighty million dollars isn’t even sufficient to count as a rounding error in that context.

lenkiteOP1y ago

Good lord - No its not a rounding error. How did you even get that ? Here is the cost of illegal immigration to taxpayers:

https://budget.house.gov/download/the-cost-of-illegal-immigr...

It is ~42 billion for welfame, $70 billion USD for schooling, $7.5 billion for the uninsured, etc, totaling to around ~150 billion. This is also around the figure confirmed by DOGE.

It would be nice if you can refute the data on facts.

rgmerk1y ago

It’s not an official figure. It’s a figure calculated by an anti-immigration “think tank”.

And even taking their numbers as gospel, it’s 1.1% of the federal budget - and it’s not like you can claw back that 1.1% either, because the enforcement mechanisms required to expel and keep illegal immigrants out of the USA would cost very substantial amounts.

etc-hosts1y ago

That study is from CIS. CIS' founder was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tanton

then you should look up "Jared Taylor". Then look up "American Renaissance"

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0 pointslenkite1y ago0 comments

> By far the largest components of spending are Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and defence.

> DOGE is BS.

Basically DOGE is only BS if you think fraud and waste are not BS. Why don't you actually look at the large number of waste projects on https://x.com/DOGE before saying it is BS ?

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svara1y ago

A lot of those examples are just meaningless without context and some are clearly framed in a way to make them sound ridiculous.

NIH funding on addiction research seems pretty relevant given what's going on in the US?

But the way they write it it's "injecting dogs with cocaine" or "giving cocaine to lonely mice". Very funny I guess?

XajniN1y ago

While the research itself is probably/potentially useful, the price is hardly justified.

rgmerk1y ago

US federal budget expenditures in 2023 were a little over six trillion dollars.

Eighty million dollars isn’t even sufficient to count as a rounding error in that context.

lenkiteOP1y ago

Good lord - No its not a rounding error. How did you even get that ? Here is the cost of illegal immigration to taxpayers:

https://budget.house.gov/download/the-cost-of-illegal-immigr...

It is ~42 billion for welfame, $70 billion USD for schooling, $7.5 billion for the uninsured, etc, totaling to around ~150 billion. This is also around the figure confirmed by DOGE.

It would be nice if you can refute the data on facts.

rgmerk1y ago

It’s not an official figure. It’s a figure calculated by an anti-immigration “think tank”.

etc-hosts1y ago

That study is from CIS. CIS' founder was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tanton

then you should look up "Jared Taylor". Then look up "American Renaissance"

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