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0 pointsykonstant1y ago0 comments

You mean a Mont Blanc ballpoint pen? Because I wouldn't use fountain pens with their water-based inks for signing contracts (even inks that claim to be waterproof).

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bayindirh1y ago

Water based inks come in tons of flavors. You can have washables (most of your royal blues), "permanents" (most blue blacks and special formulations) which leave a faint mark you can't remove (GvFC inks sans Royal Blue, Pelikan 4001 Blue Black, etc.), pigments which cling to your paper like their life depend on it or you can go full send and get "cellulose reactive" inks which will not leave your paper unless you destruct the said paper.

Many "permanent" inks on permanent rollerballs and gels (e.g. Uni SuperInk) is also water based, yet they don't and won't leave your paper, because they're made of UV resistant pigments.

ykonstantOP1y ago

Right, or you can use an oil based ink with a good ball point pen and not have to worry about where to find "cellulose reactive" inks and how they will interact with your fountain pen.

bayindirh1y ago

Noodler's inks are dime a gallon, esp. in the US, and they're guaranteed to be pH neutral in most used colors (bottles state if they pH neutral), so they don't damage any pen, modern and vintage.

They're specifically designed to be that.

Bulletproof Noodler's inks are as follows: https://noodlersink.com/product-tag/bullet-proof/

They even have 16 Oz. bottles if you want "buy one, leave for grandchildren" amount of ink in one go.

If you want a more mainstream archival ink, go GvFC, Pelikan 4001 Blue Black (not available in US), MB midnight blue or Pelikan Edelstein Tanzanite.

slavik811y ago

Noodler's archival inks would be fine for that purpose. Bulletproof Black reacts with the cellulose in the paper so it will not wash out.

kstrauser1y ago

I was curious so I tested it myself: https://honeypot.net/categories/ink/

Noodler’s Baystate Blue is at least as waterproof as the paper it’s on.

ykonstantOP1y ago

Archival is not just about being waterproof, that's the problem.

throwpoaster1y ago

I was going to go fountain, yes. Excellent “tip”, thanks!

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bayindirh1y ago

Many "permanent" inks on permanent rollerballs and gels (e.g. Uni SuperInk) is also water based, yet they don't and won't leave your paper, because they're made of UV resistant pigments.

ykonstantOP1y ago

Right, or you can use an oil based ink with a good ball point pen and not have to worry about where to find "cellulose reactive" inks and how they will interact with your fountain pen.

bayindirh1y ago

Noodler's inks are dime a gallon, esp. in the US, and they're guaranteed to be pH neutral in most used colors (bottles state if they pH neutral), so they don't damage any pen, modern and vintage.

They're specifically designed to be that.

Bulletproof Noodler's inks are as follows: https://noodlersink.com/product-tag/bullet-proof/

They even have 16 Oz. bottles if you want "buy one, leave for grandchildren" amount of ink in one go.

If you want a more mainstream archival ink, go GvFC, Pelikan 4001 Blue Black (not available in US), MB midnight blue or Pelikan Edelstein Tanzanite.

slavik811y ago

Noodler's archival inks would be fine for that purpose. Bulletproof Black reacts with the cellulose in the paper so it will not wash out.

kstrauser1y ago

I was curious so I tested it myself: https://honeypot.net/categories/ink/

Noodler’s Baystate Blue is at least as waterproof as the paper it’s on.

ykonstantOP1y ago

Archival is not just about being waterproof, that's the problem.

throwpoaster1y ago

I was going to go fountain, yes. Excellent “tip”, thanks!

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