Well, at least they aren't trying to enforce this retroactively.
The reason it is uncommon worldwide is because nobody practices common law outside of the Anglophone former colonies and England itself. England had absolute birthright citizenship right up until Thatcher
I'd be curious to hear the argument that people legally working or studying here aren't "subject to jurisdiction" of. People on H1B for a while file the exact same taxes citizens file (because they're US persons for tax purposes). Not sure how are they legally not subject to jurisdiction of?
I’d think the “tourist VISA” part makes sense after all.
The “work VISA” part is strange, as you say. If I’m on a 15 days business trip, could make sense. If on a multi-year H1B… well, it sucks.
Legal Eagle has a good rundown of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knH3v5aEe_g
Certainly reminiscent of Bannon's shock and awe strategy from '16
Read it again and you can clearly see that it is for those who are *not born to permanent "US citizens" or "lawful permanent residents"*.
>>> (c) Nothing in this order shall be construed to affect the entitlement of other individuals, including children of lawful permanent residents, to obtain documentation of their United States citizenship.
The important distinction is that this order is only for:
>>> those who are NOT born to permanent "US citizens" or "lawful permanent residents".
This order does NOT affect children born IN the US to US citizens or "lawful permanent residents" while the OP suggested that this order was "ending birthright citizenship in America" which that is totally false, otherwise it would have included everyone including US citizens or permanent residents, but it does not.
Only for those who are NOT born to permanent "US citizens" or "lawful permanent residents".
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Very few countries have a huge statue at the entrance of a major port with a big bronze plaque bearing the message "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free (...)".
