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0 points_delirium13y ago0 comments

I dunno about the "never did" part. Google is doing some interesting stuff, but I don't think they're yet up to the peak of academia, like the amount of individual researcher freedom combined with innovation going on in the heyday of the MIT AI Lab. Even grad students were doing totally independent never-been-done research projects! Mere staff members like Richard Stallman had influential active side projects, too.

Google does seem like a great place if you're a senior enough researcher, though. People like Peter Norvig, Ken Thompson, and likely the author of this linked article, seem to get basically 100% freedom to work on whatever they want, with minimal management or job requirements, which is pretty much the ideal position to be in as a researcher. I suspect not all Google employees get Ken-Thompson-level freedom from having a boss, though.

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carterschonwald13y ago

Hehe, this is where is gets interesting. There's a huge number of small to mid sized companies which give you huge creative latitude for projects. Perhaps the most famous one is Valve (read their handbook, it's amazing!)

I'm actually hoping to replicate some of those ideas of both the good bits of academe plus the modalities in aforementioned handbook as I start to pull people into my org, Wellposed. (because what's more exciting than working with fun nice interesting intelligent folks who do amazing work plus being paid insanely well? )

_deliriumOP13y ago

It's an interesting model that I do hope catches on. My impression is that it's not currently widespread, but maybe I'm missing all the interesting action. Afaict, in the game industry (which I'm pretty familiar with, being an AI researcher in academia focusing on game design / game mechanics), the more common model is a very highly managed EA-style one. And among smaller firms, creative freedom in design is more common, but technical research isn't that common, because they don't have the resources/budget/interest. The only smallish game company I've seen produce actual published research is LittleTextPeople (some years ago, there was also Zoesis, but it's now defunct).

Perhaps it's better in other fields?

carterschonwald13y ago

who cares how other people do their biz, its how i'm structuring my (not game focused) operation to the full extent that I can :)

(and because there are no outside investors, it is so to the full extent that fiat authority can make there be no org chart :) )

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carterschonwald13y ago

_deliriumOP13y ago

Perhaps it's better in other fields?

carterschonwald13y ago

who cares how other people do their biz, its how i'm structuring my (not game focused) operation to the full extent that I can :)

(and because there are no outside investors, it is so to the full extent that fiat authority can make there be no org chart :) )

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