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0 pointsmyrmidon1y ago0 comments

I think there is some kind of mixup, you can not scale up the variance percentages quadratically:

If you do a small-scale measurement, say you get result of 5g, with a standard deviation of 0.2g. That means the variance is 0.04 g^2.

If you then scale the setup up by 1000 (=> getting 5kg as expected value), then the variance scales to 1000^2 * 0.04 = 40000 g^2.

BUT the standard deviation is still 200g. The relative uncertainty is NOT increasing quadratically!

(another sanity check: if you change the units by a factor of 1000, your variance must not increase, relatively).

But maybe I misunderstood your point?

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timr1y ago

> If you then scale the setup up by 1000 (=> getting 5kg as expected value), then the variance scales to 1000^2 * 0.04 = 40000 g^2.

They didn't "scale the setup". They made a small-scale measurement, then extrapolated from that result by many orders of magnitude. They didn't grind up whole brains and measure the plastic content.

Imagine the experiment as a draw from a normal distribution (the distribution is irrelevant; it's just easier to visualize). You then multiply that sample by 10,000. What is the variance of the resulting sample distribution?

myrmidonOP1y ago

> What is the variance of the resulting sample distribution?

Relatively? The same. Yes it scales quadratically, but that is just because variance has such a weird unit.

Just consider standard deviation (which has the same physical unit as what you are measuring, and can be substituted for variance conceptually): This increases linearly when you scale up the sample.

An example: Say you take 20 blood samples (5 ml), and find that they contain 4.5 ml water, with a standard deviation of 0.1 ml over your samples.

From that, your best guess for the whole human (5 liters, i.e. x1000) has to be 4.5 liters water, with standard deviation scaled up to 0.1 liters (or what would you argue for, and why?)

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