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0 pointstalldayo1y ago0 comments

> Where does this problem start?

It starts with UK citizens buying iPhones and expecting their data to be private at all.

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Is it any different with Android phones? From what I've read it doesn't seem so.

My comment applies just as much to the people working at Apple and Google as to the folks in the UK government.

It is, Android handsets are not prevented by Google from selecting an entirely different operating system if they distrust the one installed by the OEM. It is expressly the choice you would make if you expected userland encryption to be mandated broken.

It doesn't protect against every attack (eg. Stingray or evil maid) but it absolutely would protect you from a situation like the one in the OP. Breaking your encryption can only work if the OEM controls your phone more than you do.

ulrikrasmussen1y ago

Well, except that Play Integrity will effectively prevent you from using any banking, payment or government ID app using a non-OEM operating system. I am writing this from LineageOS, so I am enduring the major inconvenience myself, but I do not expect the average person to do so.

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freedomben1y ago

I tend to agree but I'd generalize it a bit more by changing it to: "It starts with UK citizens buying [phones from most tech companies] and expecting their data to be private at all."

alt2271y ago

It starts with ALL citizens buying iPhones and expecting their data to be private at all.

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