The Rural Electrification Act not only brought power to rural areas, but also jobs to Americans when they were most needed, and countless follow-on benefits: increased farm productivity, longer lifespans and higher quality of life, etc.
It’s also not that subsidized compared to many other industries; the entire point of co-ops is purchasing something in bulk, with no one taking the profits. They get loans, yes, but the default rate on them is absurdly low.
And on that point, electric co-ops consistently produce reliable power at a lower cost than privately-owned utilities. I’ve experienced both, in multiple areas of the country, and by far co-ops beat everyone else.
This doesn’t even touch on the fact that the infrastructure enabled by the REA is also the only reason high speed internet ever made it to rural areas. Fiber everywhere should absolutely be a goal.
I recently extended a line about 1000 feet. For this, I paid $13000 -- primary transmission, poles, anchors, electricians, transformers, all at full rates. And it was a required donation, as in the power coop owns everything and it goes on public easement on to the next guy when they extend from mine. When they finished, I worked myself silly digging secondary transmission to where I was used on the property.
It is the other way around, rural people shoulder the costs of massive mileage of the grid extension that aid intercity networking. The costs are privatized but the benefits are socialized.
Much / all of this is arguably necessary for national security viz. food production, but I dislike when people in red states (not saying you’ve done this, just making a tangential point) make comments like, “let’s see how long the city lasts if we stop exporting food.” Uhhh how long do you think you’d last without practically every aspect of your life being subsidized?
We need both groups in the country, and we need to support each other as each needs, but part of that dynamic being healthy means acknowledging that we’re receiving help.
The same is true for all infrastructure in that it gets less expensive per user as density increases. The cost to hook up an apartment building to the grid is a few houses in a suburb but services 10x the people at the same revenue per person. The cost to service a single home in a rural area might wipe the revenue out from a dozen apartments.
Frankly, I’m sick of subsidizing the rural welfare crowd. Let them pay the market price for their roads and utilities if they want to cosplay as Galt gulchers.
It’s funnier if we alter it a little, is it more or less true this way?
>> It's also clear that rural voting was a huge error. People should live in clusters of at least a handful of structures where it's practical and affordable to provision government (and telecommunications), or they should be off the grid altogether. What we built in the 20th century was the worst possible thing: dispersed houses. This should never have been built and we should not perpetuate it with subsidies.
Because of this clustering - I live in a pretty rural area - but have natural gas and cable internet (only one option, so not that awesome).
But, I also have a well and a septic system. And I'm very thankful. As I was moving back to the US after 2 decades in a city, I did a winter with no high speed internet (used a mofi router with a SIM card as Starlink was overprescribed in the area) and propane for heat. It was a small house but heating with propane is crazy expensive.
And I assume your food would be conjured magically?
