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0 pointstoyg1y ago0 comments

I'm a newb PM and at the moment I feel like I have all three... It's hard to coordinate when developers are all headstrong seniors with big agendas. The best I can do at the moment is nudge some of them, occasionally, into doing some of the work I need, while hoping their goose-chasing eventually produces something I can sell to my bosses.

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hobs1y ago

As a sr eng, they've also probably experienced a bunch of PMs before, some good, a lot less so, all with their pet projects and agendas that next year will be entirely new and innovative and in the bin in 12 months.

The best ones I have worked with are competent, they dont make me do their work, they keep their promises, they dont waste my time, they see organizational issues and take point on them, and they generally were unflappable in targeting organizational discomfort about tackling an issue or talking to so and so.

This is really hard for someone jr to the space, but humility in the face of everyone's priorities is a great start.

toygOP1y ago

> next year will be entirely new and innovative and in the bin in 12 months.

Yeah but my problem is that they are the ones with grand visions that may or may not ever come to fruition, and I am the one left with half-baked features that the business clearly needs to fix right now but are seen as unfashionable to work on.

Recently I was at a point where I've suggested to onboard a junior resource to mop the metaphorical floor. I'm starting to think that, next time, I should ask to have different degrees of seniority in the team to make it more balanced.

hobs1y ago

Honestly it sounds like you have a bit of a management problem if your engineers are building random stuff you don't need. I spend a decent amount of my time behind the scenes with the PM folks making sure the things we are building are the things we want to build, and then convincing people (often in a face saving manner) that what the business wants is what we all want (since they pay us.)

This generally works because I target the smaller companies and so actually making money is at issue, in a large enough org you can go half a decade before anything shakes up dumb stuff.

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hobs1y ago

This is really hard for someone jr to the space, but humility in the face of everyone's priorities is a great start.

toygOP1y ago

> next year will be entirely new and innovative and in the bin in 12 months.

hobs1y ago

This generally works because I target the smaller companies and so actually making money is at issue, in a large enough org you can go half a decade before anything shakes up dumb stuff.

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