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0 pointsp_ing1y ago0 comments

The modem might be the most interesting thing about this phone. They've spent years trying to get one out the door.

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I think camera is equally interesting.

Why? It uses a linear zoom like a classic lens design inside and embeds an optical 2x zoom lens into a smaller area.

From the press release:

> With an integrated 2x Telephoto, users have the equivalent of two cameras in one, and can zoom in with optical quality to get closer to the subject and easily frame their shot.

OptionOfT1y ago

Isn't this the first time they have an actual zoom lens vs multiple lenses and thus CMOS?

Edit: reading below it's still unsure if they actually have a lens that moves back & forth to achieve the zoom.

bayindirh1y ago

This is the first time they use linear (classic zoom) design. The previous one was a 90-degree periscope design. From 16 Pro Max specifications:

> 12MP 5x Telephoto: 120 mm, ƒ/2.8 aperture and 20° field of view, 100% Focus Pixels, seven-element lens, 3D sensor-shift optical image stabilization and autofocus, tetraprism design. 5x optical zoom in, 2x optical zoom out; 10x optical zoom range

An image showing what they did earlier: https://i.4pda.ws/s/as6yz0d0FvbZniF2YYSyZ3z2HOWajz2.jpg

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kemayo1y ago

It's probably the same as the 2x zoom in the iPhone 16 line. The 1x pictures are a 48MP sensor that does some pixel-combining to output a 12MP image. The 2x pictures are a crop of 12MP in the center of the sensor, that doesn't do any combining. So it's still "optical", but it's lower-quality than the 1x.

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dcreater1y ago

It just crops to the central 12MP of the image sensor. It's the same camera from the iPhone 15

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bayindirh1y ago

I think camera is equally interesting.

Why? It uses a linear zoom like a classic lens design inside and embeds an optical 2x zoom lens into a smaller area.

From the press release:

> With an integrated 2x Telephoto, users have the equivalent of two cameras in one, and can zoom in with optical quality to get closer to the subject and easily frame their shot.

OptionOfT1y ago

Isn't this the first time they have an actual zoom lens vs multiple lenses and thus CMOS?

Edit: reading below it's still unsure if they actually have a lens that moves back & forth to achieve the zoom.

bayindirh1y ago

This is the first time they use linear (classic zoom) design. The previous one was a 90-degree periscope design. From 16 Pro Max specifications:

An image showing what they did earlier: https://i.4pda.ws/s/as6yz0d0FvbZniF2YYSyZ3z2HOWajz2.jpg

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kemayo1y ago

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dcreater1y ago

It just crops to the central 12MP of the image sensor. It's the same camera from the iPhone 15

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