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0 pointslolinder1y ago0 comments

> Demanding this level of security from software provided at no cost that relies on open contributions is wholly unreasonable

VS Code isn't some kind of hobby project by a couple of dudes on laptops with nothing but the best interests of the community at heart. It's a flagship IDE produced by one of the most valuable tech companies in the world, released for free as a loss leader in service to very specific corporate goals.

When a tech behemoth releases a free IDE as a loss leader and it drives out all of the scrappy open source projects one by one, I think it's reasonable to hold that tech behemoth to tech behemoth standards rather than scrappy open source project standards.

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rafaelmn1y ago

> VS Code isn't some kind of hobby project by a couple of dudes on laptops with nothing but the best interests of the community at heart.

Which is why I'm pretty confident in first party packages and don't install third party plugins from random authors.

mr_toad1y ago

> I think it's reasonable to hold that tech behemoth to tech behemoth standards

You’d end up with Apple-style reviews and then people complaining about them. You can’t really win.

rat99881y ago

The marketplace isn't operated on a paid contract for vetted extensions. You vet the extensions you use. Most don't, and it's ok. Don't shift the blame and the cost on microsoft though, they don't have to offer it.

homebrewer1y ago

Yet Mozilla, for all the flak it gets, isn't paid a dime by its users, but does find resources to vet the most popular extensions. Everything I use is checked by them.

Raymond Hill (of ublock fame) wasn't really impressed with how it is performed, but it's still much better than nothing (which is what MS apparently does).

VSCode is an IDE in name only, it's a glorified text editor, and pretty mediocre one at that. I in "IDE" stands for "integrated", like what you'd expect from JetBrains' products. Or even the real visual studio.

nkmnz1y ago

What functionality or property makes JetBrains' products an IDE while VSCode isn't? Honest question, I've never used any of their products.

CodeWriter231y ago

Paid JetBrains user here. What JetBrains gives you is self-implemented add-ons in their marketplace. These are perceived to have the same level of trust as the base product. Then there is the similar level of “might be malware” or “steal your infoware” from (possibly adapted) open source and third parties available on their marketplace.

mindcrash1y ago

As a example: Rider (https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/) - a IDE - comes with everything you could possibly need to build and compile .NET apps out of the box, while VSCode - a code editor - relies on extensions (and thus mostly the community surrounding VSCode) for this.

Or to make things more succinct:

* VSCode is a extendable code editor (like vim, neovim, Zed and Sublime)

* Jetbrains Rider is a fully equipped Integrated Development Environment (like Microsoft Visual Studio or its direct sibling Jetbrains IntelliJ IDEA)

And while extensions are optional within a IDE (and often solely used for increased productivity), more often than not they are a necessity in a code editor to even become productive.

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CodeWriter231y ago

Apples to oranges or should I say Advertising Revenue vs. Freemium Revenue models

forgotpwd161y ago

>Everything I use is checked by them.

How you know that?

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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rafaelmn1y ago

> VS Code isn't some kind of hobby project by a couple of dudes on laptops with nothing but the best interests of the community at heart.

Which is why I'm pretty confident in first party packages and don't install third party plugins from random authors.

mr_toad1y ago

> I think it's reasonable to hold that tech behemoth to tech behemoth standards

You’d end up with Apple-style reviews and then people complaining about them. You can’t really win.

rat99881y ago

homebrewer1y ago

Yet Mozilla, for all the flak it gets, isn't paid a dime by its users, but does find resources to vet the most popular extensions. Everything I use is checked by them.

Raymond Hill (of ublock fame) wasn't really impressed with how it is performed, but it's still much better than nothing (which is what MS apparently does).

nkmnz1y ago

What functionality or property makes JetBrains' products an IDE while VSCode isn't? Honest question, I've never used any of their products.

CodeWriter231y ago

mindcrash1y ago

Or to make things more succinct:

* VSCode is a extendable code editor (like vim, neovim, Zed and Sublime)

* Jetbrains Rider is a fully equipped Integrated Development Environment (like Microsoft Visual Studio or its direct sibling Jetbrains IntelliJ IDEA)

And while extensions are optional within a IDE (and often solely used for increased productivity), more often than not they are a necessity in a code editor to even become productive.

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CodeWriter231y ago

Apples to oranges or should I say Advertising Revenue vs. Freemium Revenue models

forgotpwd161y ago

>Everything I use is checked by them.

How you know that?

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse