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0 pointsJuliate1y ago0 comments

NATO didn't expand. More countries joined it. That's rather a significant nuance.

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Im not sure it's a distinction worth drawing. Other kinds of gang also expand by luring in fresh meat who join voluntarily in a fractious security environment.

It's very vulnerable position being a prospective member of a gang. The fact that you try to join one for protection doesnt mean you wont end up being sacrificed when the gang leaders demand you "prove yourself" first.

JuliateOP1y ago

That's not a gang against another here.

Those are democratic, sovereign countries, in an international order governed by law. Joining voluntarily a _defense_ alliance.

And one bully country that keeps on bullying, and pretends to be the victim of everyone, and unlawfully attacks a neighbouring country.

Despite its own twisted narrative, if someone took the wrong decision, that's Russia.

pydry1y ago

NATO has participated in 4 wars in the last 20 years, 4 of which were offensive. Unfortunately underlining the word defense doesnt magically make it less of an offensive alliance.

The horseshoe theory applies here. Putin's supporters take equally orwellian positions to this.

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ImPostingOnHN1y ago

From whom do the joining countries feel they need security, in this "fractious security environment"? :)

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pydry1y ago

Im not sure it's a distinction worth drawing. Other kinds of gang also expand by luring in fresh meat who join voluntarily in a fractious security environment.

JuliateOP1y ago

That's not a gang against another here.

Those are democratic, sovereign countries, in an international order governed by law. Joining voluntarily a _defense_ alliance.

And one bully country that keeps on bullying, and pretends to be the victim of everyone, and unlawfully attacks a neighbouring country.

Despite its own twisted narrative, if someone took the wrong decision, that's Russia.

pydry1y ago

NATO has participated in 4 wars in the last 20 years, 4 of which were offensive. Unfortunately underlining the word defense doesnt magically make it less of an offensive alliance.

The horseshoe theory applies here. Putin's supporters take equally orwellian positions to this.

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ImPostingOnHN1y ago

From whom do the joining countries feel they need security, in this "fractious security environment"? :)

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