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0 pointsnickslaughter021y ago0 comments

> Privacy rights in the EU are being eroded as we speak. Unless people there get off their high horse, they'll succumb to the same level of authoritarianism and surveillance as in the states.

Last time I checked not even the US is proposing to install AI agents on everybody's phone to surveil your encrypted messages (look up chat control, last meeting not even 2 months ago). Soon people will start looking for non-EU VPNs to install Signal (the CEO said they would leave EU if the law passed).

> Also, sorry, but the idea that EU countries are in any position to build a serious hyperscaler is pure fiction. Growth, funding, risk, innovation - those are alien concepts to European entrepreneurs.

Disagree, some of the EU clouds are already well on their way.

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wkat42421y ago

Yes ChatControl is a worry indeed. But we have been successfully fighting it for a long time. And it is only pushed by a small number of politicians.

Surprisingly enough the drive to do this does not come from within Europe but from the US (Ashton Kutcher and "Thorn"). They have managed to pocket some influential politicians.

nickslaughter02OP1y ago

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. This is factually true:

Chat control: EU Ombudsman criticises revolving door between Europol and chat control tech lobbyist Thorn

> Breyer welcomes the outcome: “When a former Europol employee sells their internal knowledge and contacts for the purpose of lobbying personally known EU Commission staff, this is exactly what must be prevented. Since the revelation of ‘Chatcontrol-Gate,’ we know that the EU’s chat control proposal is ultimately a product of lobbying by an international surveillance-industrial complex. To ensure this never happens again, the surveillance lobbying swamp must be drained.”

Source: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-eu-ombudsman-c...

> And it is only pushed by a small number of politicians.

Including the chief Ursula von der Leyen and her commission.

systemf_omega1y ago

> Disagree, some of the EU clouds are already well on their way.

Feel free to drop a few links. Digital EU projects tend to be absolute disasters run by bureaucrats. They always result in some 100 page long document, talking about planning a plan for creating a planning framework. Also throw in the words sovereign and digital transformation, for maximum corpo-political bullshit.

wkat42421y ago

Sure there's more bureaucracy here but in the end they work out fine.

Galileo works perfectly as a counterpart to GPS. GDPR was also a resounding success.

briandear1y ago

Is that the GDPR that has polluted the web with cookie notices?

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0 pointsnickslaughter021y ago0 comments

> Privacy rights in the EU are being eroded as we speak. Unless people there get off their high horse, they'll succumb to the same level of authoritarianism and surveillance as in the states.

Disagree, some of the EU clouds are already well on their way.

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wkat42421y ago

Yes ChatControl is a worry indeed. But we have been successfully fighting it for a long time. And it is only pushed by a small number of politicians.

Surprisingly enough the drive to do this does not come from within Europe but from the US (Ashton Kutcher and "Thorn"). They have managed to pocket some influential politicians.

nickslaughter02OP1y ago

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. This is factually true:

Chat control: EU Ombudsman criticises revolving door between Europol and chat control tech lobbyist Thorn

Source: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-eu-ombudsman-c...

> And it is only pushed by a small number of politicians.

Including the chief Ursula von der Leyen and her commission.

systemf_omega1y ago

> Disagree, some of the EU clouds are already well on their way.

wkat42421y ago

Sure there's more bureaucracy here but in the end they work out fine.

Galileo works perfectly as a counterpart to GPS. GDPR was also a resounding success.

briandear1y ago

Is that the GDPR that has polluted the web with cookie notices?

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