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0 pointscsdvrx0y ago0 comments

> It sounds like you wish they used systemd

I do.

> "Modern" is rarely a good description

Then call it reliable and dependable.

Modern doesn't always win for me: I prefer vim to neovim, or bash to zsh. Having a solid set of features and a good integration does.

If you are curious, see https://marcelofern.com/posts/linux/goodbye_zsh/index.html which mirrors my reasons to prefer bash

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technothrasher0y ago

> Modern doesn't always win for me: I prefer [...] bash to zsh

Bash and zsh are approximately to same age. I think bash is older by only a few months.

wyclif0y ago

Yes, I think this confuses modern Linux users because bash is the default on most Linux server and desktop installs. So they end up thinking zsh is "new" because it's an additional package.

Klonoar0y ago

Postmarket actually wound up porting systemd somewhat recently.

https://postmarketos.org/blog/2024/03/05/adding-systemd/

MisterTea0y ago

Not by choice.

> This is of course not an easy task, one of the main blockers we found as we collaborate more closely with KDE and GNOME developers is that they have a hard time with our OpenRC-based stack. In order to get KDE Plasma and GNOME working at all, we use a lot of systemd polyfills on top of OpenRC.

Klonoar0y ago

I don't particularly care about those details. I was mostly pointing out to the parent commenter that it does exist there now.

csdvrxOP0y ago

postmarket OS with systemd is far from ready at least for the device I'm working with. I even have to prepare a serial cable to figure what's happening.

But I know that once it's fixed, it will work well, so it's motivating me to give a hand

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0 pointscsdvrx0y ago0 comments

> It sounds like you wish they used systemd

I do.

> "Modern" is rarely a good description

Then call it reliable and dependable.

Modern doesn't always win for me: I prefer vim to neovim, or bash to zsh. Having a solid set of features and a good integration does.

If you are curious, see https://marcelofern.com/posts/linux/goodbye_zsh/index.html which mirrors my reasons to prefer bash

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technothrasher0y ago

> Modern doesn't always win for me: I prefer [...] bash to zsh

Bash and zsh are approximately to same age. I think bash is older by only a few months.

wyclif0y ago

Yes, I think this confuses modern Linux users because bash is the default on most Linux server and desktop installs. So they end up thinking zsh is "new" because it's an additional package.

Klonoar0y ago

Postmarket actually wound up porting systemd somewhat recently.

https://postmarketos.org/blog/2024/03/05/adding-systemd/

MisterTea0y ago

Not by choice.

Klonoar0y ago

I don't particularly care about those details. I was mostly pointing out to the parent commenter that it does exist there now.

csdvrxOP0y ago

postmarket OS with systemd is far from ready at least for the device I'm working with. I even have to prepare a serial cable to figure what's happening.

But I know that once it's fixed, it will work well, so it's motivating me to give a hand

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse