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0 pointslillecarl0y ago0 comments

I'm 100% certain, you're regurgitating the typical anti-systemd shill that hates into a future where we might be so lucky that Linux users don't need to know anything about their init system. That day is a good day for Linux users if it happens.

I don't think not knowing all of what systemd does will turn Linux users into mindless drones and it's quite dismissive to take that stance, these are users that chose another OS for their out of their own free will.

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M95D0y ago

You don't have to belive me, you know... Just look at what happend with Microsoft users over time as the OSs became more and more unconfigurable. On the other side, Linux users, from the beginning until recently, were very competent. They stayed competent because they had to. School is compulsory for everybody a reason - extremely few people learn, unless they're forced to.

"Mindless drones" is probably a little harsh - I usually reserve that for mobile phone/tablet users.

lillecarlOP0y ago

You're turning "these systems work so incredibly shit that we must know everything about it to work it" into something positive while dismissing the state we had before systemd. And regarding learning, it seems people are still willing to use and work in the Linux ecosystem even after systemd and Kubernetes and other high level abstractions that makes utilizing computers easier.

I think using the description "mindless drone" for someone using a device is better left off this and any HN communication as I assume 99% of readers use a mobile phone daily.

M95D11mo ago

I still don't use systemd and this year I stopped using openrc too. Now I'm using only sysvinit. It was very very educational and I even reported bugs in sysvinit, some of them were there for over 20 years.

The people you are attracting to Linux are not the kind of people that will improve it in any way. As Linux is free (well, most distros), you won't even see any extra money. Only idiotic bug reports will increse. "Interent isn't working!!!111 FIX IT NOWWW!!!111"

You're not even attracting competent sysadmins. You'll have more security breaches, more automated hacking (because without manually-written scripts, all systems behave predictably the same), more costly fixes (because consultants that still know the job are expensive).

Mobile users that feel offended users may vote me down, I don't mind, but you know the type of users I was referring to.

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