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0 pointsmelling11mo ago0 comments

Try working out the math. I’m a little tired of your argument. You are wrong. We really do need to address the really big things.

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nopelynopington11mo ago

The person behind choviva is not in a position to change China's coal usage or US freight rail uptake. Neither are you and neither am I. Should we just do nothing?

bryanlarsen11mo ago

The world invested $2.1 trillion in the clean energy transition in 2024. We are doing the big things.

https://about.bnef.com/blog/global-investment-in-the-energy-...

gedy11mo ago

Cool but I'd wish we measure the output vs how much we spend, as it's frequently dumped into a black hole with little to show for it.

dylan60411mo ago

No worries. DOGE came to the same conclusion and stopped the dumping into the black hole. We're all saved now. They've also actively eliminated climate change. Not from existing, but from the official records, and that's as good as actually eliminating it, right? After all, if you stop testing, the numbers go down.

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bryanlarsen11mo ago

Very little of the $2T is dumped into a black hole. 1/3 were electric vehicles, 1/3 was wind, solar & batteries, 1/6 was electrical infrastructure.

bayindirh11mo ago

See this: https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/72h/hourly

dylan60411mo ago

Great. You go tell POTUS and US Congress exactly what your solution is, and come back to us when they have implemented your solution. No? Fine, you go out and preach to those that do not believe climate change is an issue, and then come back to us when you've convinced everyone.

You coming at everyone like we're all stupid is just not helping anyone. Instead, you're the petulant child that thinks everyone should do exactly what they want because they have no real understanding of the complexity of making wholesale changes like you are dreaming for. As if you were the first person to have this realization. Please

bananalychee11mo ago

Well do you care about results or not? Because if climate change is such an urgent threat to face, it seems like all efforts should be directed towards the lowest-hanging fruit and making the most possible impact with the resources that you have, instead of muddying the waters by convincing people that buying a hyper-processed chocolate substitute will actually change anything meaningfully. OP clearly does not care enough to make it his or her life's quest, but that doesn't make it inconsistent to criticize the effort of those who supposedly do, just like it's not inconsistent to criticize a bad movie without being an accomplished film director. What's inconsistent is selling climate change as an imminent thread that has to be an immediate top priority to address, while promoting purely performative efforts. It seems like what actually motivates activists in this area is the sense of moral superiority more than a sense of duty.

dylan60411mo ago

You can criticize the lack of effort and point that criticism directly at those in charge. Taking cheap shots at people making personal choices to at least not contribute to the problems directly is just not ever going to do anything positive. Again, these individuals are not the ones in control of government policy. They are just trying to do what they feel is a better way than actively participating in the worsening.

Shout at the US government all you want. At least you'll be putting the blame of inaction where it belongs. You're efforts will have the same effect that you say the individuals are having. None.

You want to make changes? Run for office. Get elected. Enact change. Oh, right, your comfy salary and cushy job are too nice to actually take on any sacrifice to do that. So getting a government job making changes from the inside are also not going to happen for same comfy/cushy reasons. Also, now, those jobs don't exist. So go out and campaign for those that are working to get into office. Work to campaign against those that are in office but not doing anything.

There's much more helpful ways of trying to get large scale changes made than trying to belittle other individuals.

BurningFrog11mo ago

There IS a lot of effort to address the really big things, all over the world!

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nopelynopington11mo ago

The person behind choviva is not in a position to change China's coal usage or US freight rail uptake. Neither are you and neither am I. Should we just do nothing?

bryanlarsen11mo ago

The world invested $2.1 trillion in the clean energy transition in 2024. We are doing the big things.

https://about.bnef.com/blog/global-investment-in-the-energy-...

gedy11mo ago

Cool but I'd wish we measure the output vs how much we spend, as it's frequently dumped into a black hole with little to show for it.

dylan60411mo ago

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bryanlarsen11mo ago

Very little of the $2T is dumped into a black hole. 1/3 were electric vehicles, 1/3 was wind, solar & batteries, 1/6 was electrical infrastructure.

bayindirh11mo ago

See this: https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/72h/hourly

dylan60411mo ago

bananalychee11mo ago

dylan60411mo ago

Shout at the US government all you want. At least you'll be putting the blame of inaction where it belongs. You're efforts will have the same effect that you say the individuals are having. None.

There's much more helpful ways of trying to get large scale changes made than trying to belittle other individuals.

BurningFrog11mo ago

There IS a lot of effort to address the really big things, all over the world!

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse