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0 pointszmmmmm11mo ago0 comments

Sure, yes, the fact that the US now is in a weak position built up over decades is just the reality that has to be faced.

The path out of it is painful - starting with reducing US debt, and using a full complement of measures to diversify sources of goods and services (including bringing them domestically where it makes sense). It's something you do over a decade, in partnership with your allies, not a week on your own.

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re-thc11mo ago

> Sure, yes, the fact that the US now is in a weak position built up over decades is just the reality that has to be faced.

It's misinformation to say the US is in a weak position. It's not. It's just gone on to do other things. When we talk about these trade deficits do we include streaming services, television shows, films, games and whatever else?

> (including bringing them domestically where it makes sense)

It doesn't, that's the point. Would you rather have factories with workers below the minimum wage or industries like the NBA?

leovingi11mo ago

> factories with workers below the minimum wage

China made that choice in the late 1970s and early 1980s and has progressed ever since and is now powerful enough to be able to stand up to the United States.

You have a warped view of what manufacturing is and how it can be built upon that is closer to children's cartoons than reality.

re-thc11mo ago

> China made that choice in the late 1970s and early 1980s and has progressed ever since

So you're saying that China has grew out of manufacturing because a lot of it is moving out of China. In the same way the US has also moved out of manufacturing ages ago.

> is now powerful enough to be able to stand up to the United States

How do you conclude that the ONLY thing China did is manufacturing?

> You have a warped view of what manufacturing is

No, it goes to show you know very little about the world. It's not all just manufacturing. That's definitely not all that China does. If it was you wouldn't have to ban Huawei and Tiktok.

Do you know how many games come from China now? A lot of US and EU game studios are at least partly owned by Chinese companies e.g. Tencent.

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re-thc11mo ago

> Sure, yes, the fact that the US now is in a weak position built up over decades is just the reality that has to be faced.

> (including bringing them domestically where it makes sense)

It doesn't, that's the point. Would you rather have factories with workers below the minimum wage or industries like the NBA?

leovingi11mo ago

> factories with workers below the minimum wage

China made that choice in the late 1970s and early 1980s and has progressed ever since and is now powerful enough to be able to stand up to the United States.

You have a warped view of what manufacturing is and how it can be built upon that is closer to children's cartoons than reality.

re-thc11mo ago

> China made that choice in the late 1970s and early 1980s and has progressed ever since

So you're saying that China has grew out of manufacturing because a lot of it is moving out of China. In the same way the US has also moved out of manufacturing ages ago.

> is now powerful enough to be able to stand up to the United States

How do you conclude that the ONLY thing China did is manufacturing?

> You have a warped view of what manufacturing is

No, it goes to show you know very little about the world. It's not all just manufacturing. That's definitely not all that China does. If it was you wouldn't have to ban Huawei and Tiktok.

Do you know how many games come from China now? A lot of US and EU game studios are at least partly owned by Chinese companies e.g. Tencent.

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