undefined | Better HN

0 pointsre-thc1y ago0 comments

> so where are you getting your data?

Is this how we came up with the "magical" tariffs formula? Look at some data, interpret it in a random way and off we go?

You don't say that [1] shows the average growth was 6.56% in China vs 9.28% in Vietnam [3] vs 10.33% in Bangladesh. So then relatively, it's not exactly "growing" is it?

If China was still explicitly growing manufacturing the numbers would be much higher. Is it actually focused on manufacturing or are there other triggers? E.g. US banned Huawei, so they had to go back home and manufacture. E.g. US is banning AI and other exports so China has to make their own. I'd say US is increasing China's manufacturing rather than China!

[3] https://tradingeconomics.com/vietnam/manufacturing-productio...

[4] https://tradingeconomics.com/bangladesh/manufacturing-produc...

[5] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/manufactu...

> Hell, you've got a naval empire (the United States) that is currently unable to come even close to the Chinese ship-building capabilities > Sooner or later the US was going to have to deal with this fact

Why? Does the UK need to deal with this "fact" too then? The US has a naval empire that the UK is no where close to in capabilities. Based on your logic, the EU would have to band together to revive the British empire and deal with the US?

I wouldn't want this. The US wouldn't want this either. So what fact is the issue?

0 comments

leovingi1y ago

>relatively

Why are you suddenly, when faced with data that doesn't fit your narrative, using that word when it was nowhere to be found in the original discussion?

>Why? Does the UK need to deal with this "fact" too then?

If the interests of UK and China ever seriously clashed and led to a conflict, yes, they would. I can't believe that military capabilities and force projection in the modern world need to be explained on a website meant for professionals.

re-thcOP1y ago

> Why are you suddenly, when faced with data that doesn't fit your narrative, using that word when it was nowhere to be found in the original discussion?

The world is always relative. Otherwise if you want it in absolute terms, the US is the world's 2nd largest global manufacturer. What manufacturing do you need to bring back then?

> If the interests of UK and China ever seriously clashed and led to a conflict, yes, they would

Who clashed with who? The US has no real conflict with China. Most US companies and citizens are happily using China made products before the tariffs. Lots of US companies sell to China. Where's the issue?

Oh you mean what's been said by certain political parties and the media for their own gains?

> I can't believe that military capabilities and force projection in the modern world need to be explained on a website meant for professionals.

Exactly right. As if the military is ONLY about the navy. Then don't slice and dice it as you please. Who says the US is weak? I didn't.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse