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0 pointsDylan1680710mo ago0 comments

As far as I can tell there is also a principle that you can have ephemeral copies as part of handling and processing the work.

Your example involves transmission and mine doesn't, and that's a whole different can of worms.

Also the result of that case was self-contradicting so it's not a great basis to build too much logic upon.

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triceratops10mo ago

> there is also a principle that you can have ephemeral copies as part of handling and processing the work.

I'm not aware of this principle. Where is it spelled out?

> Also the result of that case was self-contradicting

I agree the verdict was a travesty. An innovative business went to ridiculous lengths to stay on the right side of the copyright mafia (data centers with tiny individual TV antennas for each subscriber FFS!) while providing a better product and experience. They still had the hammer brought down on them.

Dylan16807OP10mo ago

> I'm not aware of this principle. Where is it spelled out?

Well, do CDs give you a license agreement that allows you to copy the data? I've never seen one. And it's nearly impossible to play a CD without that copying.

triceratops10mo ago

> And it's nearly impossible to play a CD without that copying.

Exactly. It's how you are supposed to use the CD. That's not true for your example of a book on a webcam. You're supposed to read the book, not an image of the book.

That's not the same thing as copying for "processing".

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0 pointsDylan1680710mo ago0 comments

As far as I can tell there is also a principle that you can have ephemeral copies as part of handling and processing the work.

Your example involves transmission and mine doesn't, and that's a whole different can of worms.

Also the result of that case was self-contradicting so it's not a great basis to build too much logic upon.

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triceratops10mo ago

> there is also a principle that you can have ephemeral copies as part of handling and processing the work.

I'm not aware of this principle. Where is it spelled out?

> Also the result of that case was self-contradicting

Dylan16807OP10mo ago

> I'm not aware of this principle. Where is it spelled out?

Well, do CDs give you a license agreement that allows you to copy the data? I've never seen one. And it's nearly impossible to play a CD without that copying.

triceratops10mo ago

> And it's nearly impossible to play a CD without that copying.

Exactly. It's how you are supposed to use the CD. That's not true for your example of a book on a webcam. You're supposed to read the book, not an image of the book.

That's not the same thing as copying for "processing".

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