US Government considering suspending habeas corpus (opens in new tab)

It is important to understand that the "penumbra" used as part of the justification of Roe expands the liberty of individuals and limits the power of the state. There is further an entire amendment (the 9th) that expressly says that such penumbras exist and that the constitution does not contain an exhaustive list of liberties.

This is wildly different than saying "well, invasion can mean anything so its fascism time."

"They did it first!" is the reasoning of a child.

Notably, Trump has already officially declared that the US is facing an invasion back in March.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invo...

Clear for all to see. History will not be kind to those US 71 million voters:

"Protecting the American People Against Invasion" - https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/prot...

Without the interpretation of laws in the same spirit in which it was written, laws are never worth anything. No amount of verbiage and legalese can convey the spirit, so laws, in any of its material form, are already a folly.

The issue is that the president and executive in general don’t have the power to do a lot of things they have, like withhold appropriated money, but they do it anyway and don’t care if the courts reprimand them. So yes, in theory only congress, in practice it only depends on if the executive in general (e.g. FBI) acts as if it is suspended.

That is the actual title but posters are forced to change them or they get flagged immediately here.

The President suspending habeas corpus means that FBI, ATF, ICE and other agencies no longer act appropriately, as these agencies are directly in control of the President.

Sure, major and powerful agencies aren't "the US Government" in general. (There's still Congress and Courts). But that's still not a force of people you want to be messing with.

Suspending Trump's illegal order immediately should be the priority. Or otherwise preempting it before it gets too far. Commanding entire agencies to suspend parts of the Constitution unilaterally is not going to be good for us.

> the ability to suspend habeas corpus is something Congress can do, not the president or his aide

Congress isn't the group who has police forces and prisons to illegally detain you in. Its the President who owns and controls the police forces and prisons who can issue orders to ignore habeas corpus.