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0 pointsryandrake10mo ago0 comments

> I'm surprised there isn't a movement to halt the use of AI for certain tasks in software development on the same level as the active resistance from doctors against socialized medicine in the US.

This is also shocking to me. Especially here on HN! Every tech CEO on earth is salivating over AI coding because they want it to devalue and/or replace their expensive human software developers. Whether or not that will actually happen, that's the purpose of building all of these "agentic" coding tools. And here we are, dumbass software engineers, cheerleading for and building the means of our own destruction! We downplay it with bullshit like "Oh, but AI is just a way to augment our work, it will never really replace us or lower our compensation!" Wild how excited we all are about this.

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aaronbaugher10mo ago

I think it's similar to a thread we had here recently about why it's impossible to unionize tech workers. Basically, most tech workers don't like other tech workers (or other people, really) very much, so there's very little camaraderie of the sort you need to get people to team up and take on a shared enemy. Instead, we all think we're smarter than the other guy, so he'll be the one who gets fired while I thrive in the new situation.

ryandrakeOP10mo ago

I think a lot of software engineers (especially those who post on HN) think of themselves as top-1% Captains Of Industry, who would never benefit from a union. "Unions only help those guys lower on the totem pole than me!" says every software engineer out there, so they disregard it as something that could help them. We all think we are Temporarily Embarrassed John Carmacks.

ecocentrik10mo ago

That doesn't explain why doctors that see themselves as top earners didn't have a problem banding together. Social organization doesn't require unions in socialist/communist sense. It can also be accomplished through other professional organizations like AMC.

blibble10mo ago

> This is also shocking to me. Especially here on HN!

this website is owned and operated by a VC, who build fortunes off exploiting these people

"workers and oppressed peoples of all countries, unite!" is the last thing I'd expect to see here

BugheadTorpeda610mo ago

HackerNews is driven by a particular kind of radical libertarian philosophy believing person. You don't come up with the sorts of pump and dump start up ideas that typically come out of Y Combinator without being either sociopathic or delusional in the above way.

Anybody who thinks this place represents the average working or middle class programmer hasn't been paying much attention. They fool a lot of people by being social liberal to go along with their economic liberalism.

ecocentrik10mo ago

HN is obviously not the right forum for the skill value dilution discussion but not seeing deep discussion about responsible LLM usage from developers or major software companies is really troubling. If Microsoft is stupid enough to dogfood their unrefined LLM based tools on critical software in the name of increased earnings and shareholder value, I'm sure the entire enterprise stack is hoping to do the same.

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0 pointsryandrake10mo ago0 comments

> I'm surprised there isn't a movement to halt the use of AI for certain tasks in software development on the same level as the active resistance from doctors against socialized medicine in the US.

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aaronbaugher10mo ago

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blibble10mo ago

> This is also shocking to me. Especially here on HN!

this website is owned and operated by a VC, who build fortunes off exploiting these people

"workers and oppressed peoples of all countries, unite!" is the last thing I'd expect to see here

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ecocentrik10mo ago

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