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0 pointscibyr9mo ago0 comments

It's so depressing to hear that congress can't even do small things that everyone agrees upon.

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If they could be required to craft single issue bills, this wouldn't be as big an issue. Instead we get the clusters of good and bad that inevitably die or sometimes worse, pass.

dragonwriter9mo ago

If everyone agreed on it, Congress would have no problem doing it (Congress itself, after all, is a subset of "everyone".)

_dark_matter_9mo ago

That's still not true. As long as a group within "everyone" (or multiple groups) decide that their support is required to pass the bill, they can suddenly demand concessions and the bill now gets complicated with good and bad.

dragonwriter9mo ago

> As long as a group within "everyone" (or multiple groups) decide that their support is required to pass the bill, they can suddenly demand concessions

Well, yes, but then everyone doesn't really want it, do they? Someone wants something else, and wants that something else enough that it is worth jeopardizing the supposedly universal goal for it.

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cj9mo ago

It’s possible for everyone to want something, while simultaneously being incapable of getting it done.

candiddevmike9mo ago

A highly disproportional subset of everyone, maybe. Though uncapping the house wouldn't fix the Senate (maybe adding some more states would)

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Supermancho9mo ago

If they could be required to craft single issue bills, this wouldn't be as big an issue. Instead we get the clusters of good and bad that inevitably die or sometimes worse, pass.

dragonwriter9mo ago

If everyone agreed on it, Congress would have no problem doing it (Congress itself, after all, is a subset of "everyone".)

_dark_matter_9mo ago

dragonwriter9mo ago

> As long as a group within "everyone" (or multiple groups) decide that their support is required to pass the bill, they can suddenly demand concessions

Well, yes, but then everyone doesn't really want it, do they? Someone wants something else, and wants that something else enough that it is worth jeopardizing the supposedly universal goal for it.

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cj9mo ago

It’s possible for everyone to want something, while simultaneously being incapable of getting it done.

candiddevmike9mo ago

A highly disproportional subset of everyone, maybe. Though uncapping the house wouldn't fix the Senate (maybe adding some more states would)

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