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0 points9rx9mo ago0 comments

> It's because there's not a lot of utility in you as a human being basically just being an intermediary to what some AI says today.

To be fair, there has never been a lot of utility in you as a human being involved, theoretically speaking. The users do not use a forum because you, a human, are pulling knobs and turning levers somewhere behind a meaningless digital profile. Any human involvement that has been required for the software to function is merely an implementation detail. The harsh reality, as software developers continually need to be reminded of, is that users really don't care about how the software works under the hood!

For today, a human posting AI-generated content to a forum is still providing all the other necessary functions required, like curation and moderation. That is just as important and the content itself, but something AI is still not very good at. A low-value poster may not put much care into that, granted, but "slop" would be dealt with the same way regardless of whether it was generated by AI or hand written by a person. The source of content is ultimately immaterial.

Once AI gets good, we'll all jump to AI-driven forums anyway, so those who embrace it now will be more likely to stave off the Digg/Slashdot future.

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briangriffinfan9mo ago

I notice this idea repeatedly popping up, that "content made by humans" is more-or-less equivalent to content generated by genAI inasmuch as genAI can "in theory" (in some sense) create the same thing a human could and so they're both "in theory" the same thing.

The idea that words people write don't mean anything or imply anything in an abstract sense is misguided, in my opinion. When one reads something a person wrote, they think about what the person who wrote it was thinking, what it means to them, what the implications of what they think might be... there are people who do not think about things like this, so they don't care and view genAI text as equivalent because that level of thought simply isn't put into their reading.

Anyway, my point is talking on a forum filled with LLMs would probably stop being interesting and engaging very quickly because LLMs are bad at emulating the lateral thinking, diversity of ideas, and abstraction of communication that make talking to a human fun.

9rxOP9mo ago

> because LLMs are bad at emulating the lateral thinking, diversity of ideas, and abstraction of communication that make talking to a human fun.

While that is no doubt true today, the earlier comment that sparked this posits that may only be a temporary state that may improve in the future. Once LLM and human creation is indistinguishable, there is no reason to have concern for what generated the content, is there?

Nobody uses a forum for the human connection. There is no human! I can't see your face, I can't touch your skin, I don't feel the heat radiating from your body. Hell, if we meet each other on the street later today, I'll never know it was you. There is only software. I do assume, knowing a thing or two about how the technology works, that in implementation that there is a human somewhere in the loop, but I don't completely know for sure, and it wouldn't make a difference anyway.

There is a place for human connection, most certainly, but it is found in the "real world". Forums are not equivalent. They are something else entirely.

> Anyway, my point is talking on a forum filled with LLMs would probably stop being interesting and engaging very quickly

Just as it does when humans write drivel by hand. There is merit to banning accounts that post garage, but what produced that garbage is irrelevant. AI's involvement, or lack thereof, makes no difference. The quality of an account can be judged on its output, not the mechanism by which it operates.

briangriffinfan9mo ago

> Just as it does when humans write drivel by hand.

I see this a lot in AI discussions - it can, at best, do what we do at a level we'd consider "good enough." It can write mediocre slop just as well as the most mediocre of us. To me, that is lowering the bar for our work exceptionally. We shoot for the stars; we just miss sometimes!

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0 points9rx9mo ago0 comments

> It's because there's not a lot of utility in you as a human being basically just being an intermediary to what some AI says today.

Once AI gets good, we'll all jump to AI-driven forums anyway, so those who embrace it now will be more likely to stave off the Digg/Slashdot future.

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9rxOP9mo ago

> because LLMs are bad at emulating the lateral thinking, diversity of ideas, and abstraction of communication that make talking to a human fun.

There is a place for human connection, most certainly, but it is found in the "real world". Forums are not equivalent. They are something else entirely.

> Anyway, my point is talking on a forum filled with LLMs would probably stop being interesting and engaging very quickly

briangriffinfan9mo ago

> Just as it does when humans write drivel by hand.

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