> IMHO a state shouldn't give individuals the right to off themselves.
This is a really terrible way of putting it (another way of putting it might be "the right to end their suffering"), not to mention that a state needs a good reason to deny its citizens of rights, not the other way around. I don't see any good reason why we should deny people the right to end their suffering when they choose.
> Maybe its better to have them be able to do it -cleanly- and legally, but that also means more of them do?
I don't think assisted dying being accessible is going to cause more people to become suicidal, no.
> I don't see mental health, or disabilities, as granting ending your own life
The thing is, you don't get to decide that for me either, on a legal basis. You're welcome to feel this way yourself, of course, and encourage your friends and family not do so, but you don't have the right to decide that for others.
> my worry is this discourse around euthansia is actively against that view and detremines the experience of humans that are considered not optimal to society as they where a throw away toy
The thing is... we already do. Disabled, elderly, neurodivergent... There are large groups of people that society has been failing for a long time. Giving some of those groups (like the elderly) the option to not have to endure that seems to me a good thing.