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0 pointspaxys9mo ago0 comments

Which country? Do you think Canada is sovereign? Do you think it will be able to defend itself if Trump gives the military an order to make them the 51st state by any means necessary?

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ericmay9mo ago

Well, Afghanistan defended itself for a bit. As did Vietnam, as clear examples. Neither possess nuclear weapons.

Today countries as various as Brazil and Australia are independent, sovereign nations. Even Ukraine which was invaded by nuclear-armed Russia is still sovereign and fighting. Iran for that matter still has its sovereignty, they just lost some military assets.

nemothekid9mo ago

Canada is sovereign because of its proximity and interconnection with US. If your economy is large enough, you can "nuke" your opponents by using mutually assured poverty.

But I largely agree, if you aren't a giant economy and you don't have nukes - then if the US or Russia accesses you of building nukes, you need to start building nukes ASAP.

jordanb9mo ago

> Do you think Canada is sovereign

Well the prime minister who was elected promising not to bend the knee to Trump has bent the knee to trump.

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2025/06/20/Carney-Elbows-Down/

twothreeone9mo ago

I was looking forward to an interesting argument, sadly it's just a very badly written opinion piece.

ericmay9mo ago

Ok and so now Canada isn’t a sovereign country? That would be astonishing news to Canadians everywhere! Can someone tell them??!

ekianjo9mo ago

Taiwan has no nukes, and still has not been invaded by China.

amanaplanacanal9mo ago

Taiwan has a good friend with nukes though.

ekianjo9mo ago

Most countries have good friends with nukes. Iran included.

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_zagj9mo ago

The US isn't nuking China over Taiwan, and China maintains an explicit "no first use" policy.

hajile9mo ago

TSMC is an economic nuke and not just by accident. The Taiwanese intentionally tried with several industries it heavily subsidized to find one where it could make itself so valuable that other countries (with nukes) would be compelled to protect it (potentially with nukes).

pixelpoet9mo ago

I don't expect this to stay true for very long :(

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ericmay9mo ago

Well, Afghanistan defended itself for a bit. As did Vietnam, as clear examples. Neither possess nuclear weapons.

nemothekid9mo ago

Canada is sovereign because of its proximity and interconnection with US. If your economy is large enough, you can "nuke" your opponents by using mutually assured poverty.

But I largely agree, if you aren't a giant economy and you don't have nukes - then if the US or Russia accesses you of building nukes, you need to start building nukes ASAP.

jordanb9mo ago

> Do you think Canada is sovereign

Well the prime minister who was elected promising not to bend the knee to Trump has bent the knee to trump.

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2025/06/20/Carney-Elbows-Down/

twothreeone9mo ago

I was looking forward to an interesting argument, sadly it's just a very badly written opinion piece.

ericmay9mo ago

Ok and so now Canada isn’t a sovereign country? That would be astonishing news to Canadians everywhere! Can someone tell them??!

ekianjo9mo ago

Taiwan has no nukes, and still has not been invaded by China.

amanaplanacanal9mo ago

Taiwan has a good friend with nukes though.

ekianjo9mo ago

Most countries have good friends with nukes. Iran included.

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_zagj9mo ago

The US isn't nuking China over Taiwan, and China maintains an explicit "no first use" policy.

hajile9mo ago

pixelpoet9mo ago

I don't expect this to stay true for very long :(

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