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0 points_benton8mo ago0 comments

> Huh, the __user__ paid for the product, so they own it. After the user handed over their money, Apple has nothing to say about who I do business with on that product, or what the conditions are.

But this is already the case. You own the device, you can do whatever you want with it (legally ofc). If I buy a fridge without a freezer, the fact that I can't freeze food with it doesn't mean I don't own the fridge.

Furthermore I don't appreciate other companies using the legal system to profit by forcing Apple to design their products in a specific way.

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amelius8mo ago

If you pay for a product and it is tied to a vendor, then you should be able to completely break all ties with that vendor and switch to a different service provider, and still be able to use the product as advertised.

Otherwise you don't own the product.

This basic premise doesn't hold for Apple products.

And by the way, I think consumer rights are more important than rights of companies to do whatever they want.

noirscape8mo ago

To give an idea on how much this holds true: I have an old iphone lying around somewhere. It's a perfectly functioning device (barring the battery), I have a cable for it and everything. I wanted to use it as an audio player - plug an AUX cable in it, play some tunes. It's a good way to reuse older phones.

Except I can't activate the fucking thing. It demands a SIM card. Trying to activate or reset it on PC just has iTunes spit out a generic failure message. Apparently it can't contact some activation server.

I have a perfectly usable iPhone. Apple decided on its own that it's a brick now. It's irrevocably tied to the vendor.

bitpush8mo ago

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tomhow8mo ago

> Aww, does it hurt when your favorite multi-trillion dollar company is taken to court?

Please don't sneer or mock like this on HN. It's not what HN is for and it destroys what it is for. Please read the guidelines and make an effort to observe them in future.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

_bentonOP8mo ago

It does hurt when I can no longer purchase a product that I want because other corporations wish to use the legal system to make more money, yes.

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izacus8mo ago

Your freezer doesn't ask for 30% of every grocery you buy and doesn't forbid you from storing a broccoli in it just because the broccoli company didn't pay the tax to the fridge maker.

Every time you make those comparisons it becomes much clearer just how much of an overreach and danger to market capitalism Apples behaviour is.

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