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0 pointsyomismoaqui8mo ago0 comments

> It is even more insulting because no actual software of value has been demonstrably produced using "AI".

Claude Code and Amp (equivalent from Sourcegraph) are created by humans using these same tools to add new features and fix bugs.

Having used both tools for some weeks I can tell you that they provide a great value to me, enough that I see paying $100 monthly as a bargain related to that value.

Edit: typo

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jdiff8mo ago

GP is pointing out the distinct lack of AI driven development in the wild. At this point, agents should be visibly maintaining at least a few popular codebases across this world wide web. The fact that there aren't raises some eyebrows for the claims that are regularly made by proponents. Not just the breathless proponents, either. Even taking claims very conservatively, FOSS maintainer burnout should be a thing of the past, but the only noted interaction with AI seems to be amplifying it.

yomismoaquiOP8mo ago

It's disingenuous to expect that tools that are publicly available for less than a year have a massive adoption in the wild.

Think that these were internal tools that provided value to engineers on Anthropic, OpenAI, Google & others and now are starting to be adopted by the general public.

Some people are overhyped and some seem hurt because I don't know, maybe they define themselves by their ability to write code by hand.

I have no horse in this race and I can only tell you about my experience and I can tell you that the change is coming.

Also if you don't trust a random HN nickname go read about the experiences of people like Armin Ronacher (Flask creator), Steve Yegge or Thomas H. Ptacek.

- https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2025/6/4/changes/ - https://sourcegraph.com/blog/the-brute-squad - https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/

jdiff8mo ago

I'm not asking for massive adoption. I'm asking for public facing evidence of what many claim privately, that they have evolved their job into managing agents and reviewing vs writing anything themselves.

Again, not massive adoption, just one codebase that's used in production with this property. If it's such a productivity boost, there has to be at least one public facing project that's done the same as random HN nicknames and nonrandom named individuals.

asadotzler8mo ago

>It's disingenuous to expect that tools that are publicly available for less than a year have a massive adoption in the wild.

Github got massive adoption in a year, probably 100K developers and tens of thousands of projects including big names like Ruby on Rails.

I'm sure if I spent more than 2 minutes on this I'd have even more examples but this one is enough to neuter your claims.

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jdiff8mo ago

yomismoaquiOP8mo ago

It's disingenuous to expect that tools that are publicly available for less than a year have a massive adoption in the wild.

Think that these were internal tools that provided value to engineers on Anthropic, OpenAI, Google & others and now are starting to be adopted by the general public.

Some people are overhyped and some seem hurt because I don't know, maybe they define themselves by their ability to write code by hand.

I have no horse in this race and I can only tell you about my experience and I can tell you that the change is coming.

Also if you don't trust a random HN nickname go read about the experiences of people like Armin Ronacher (Flask creator), Steve Yegge or Thomas H. Ptacek.

- https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2025/6/4/changes/ - https://sourcegraph.com/blog/the-brute-squad - https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/

jdiff8mo ago

asadotzler8mo ago

>It's disingenuous to expect that tools that are publicly available for less than a year have a massive adoption in the wild.

Github got massive adoption in a year, probably 100K developers and tens of thousands of projects including big names like Ruby on Rails.

I'm sure if I spent more than 2 minutes on this I'd have even more examples but this one is enough to neuter your claims.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse