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0 pointsHackbraten9mo ago0 comments

> I know from experience that well designed messages with secure code are very understandable

This premise seems flawed.

How can you possibly know from experience that something is “very understandable” if the only brain you have is your own?

How do you anticipate how other people with brains different from yours are going to behave in situations of cognitive impairment or extreme stress, things that happen in the real world?

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avodonosov9mo ago

There are common properties of phycology shared by people. UI design and ergonomics rely on such properties. In psrticular, how people read text.

But I am speaking of myself only. From experience receiving well designed message comparing to the experience with badly designed messages.

I am a data point of evidence supporing my view. The opinion that "people don't read" is a complete speculation, without convincing evidence.

The real problem that many services simply not include the warning in the message.

HackbratenOP9mo ago

OP’s claim was not that “people don’t read.”

It was that “[t]hey only read what they need to finish what they are currently trying to do.”

Those are two different claims.

avodonosov9mo ago

Ok. When they need the code they will have to scan through a message like

    Do not share the code 3456

and will read the words, because they read left to right.

The code should be in the same font as the rest of the text.

HackbratenOP9mo ago

I can assure you that by now, my brain is conditioned to lock into the four-digit code as soon as it can, entirely ignoring everything around it, including the words to the left.

I’m an avid reader. But there are limits to what I can process, and our world has become so full of noise that it has become a coping strategy for brains to selectively ignore stuff if they feel it’s not important at the moment. That effect becomes even more pronounced as the brain deteriorates with age.

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avodonosov9mo ago

There are common properties of phycology shared by people. UI design and ergonomics rely on such properties. In psrticular, how people read text.

But I am speaking of myself only. From experience receiving well designed message comparing to the experience with badly designed messages.

I am a data point of evidence supporing my view. The opinion that "people don't read" is a complete speculation, without convincing evidence.

The real problem that many services simply not include the warning in the message.

HackbratenOP9mo ago

OP’s claim was not that “people don’t read.”

It was that “[t]hey only read what they need to finish what they are currently trying to do.”

Those are two different claims.

avodonosov9mo ago

Ok. When they need the code they will have to scan through a message like

    Do not share the code 3456

and will read the words, because they read left to right.

The code should be in the same font as the rest of the text.

HackbratenOP9mo ago

I can assure you that by now, my brain is conditioned to lock into the four-digit code as soon as it can, entirely ignoring everything around it, including the words to the left.

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