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0 pointsadmdly7mo ago0 comments

There isn’t a skill issue at play here - it’s that Apple have closed the previously unofficial route others have been using (including MXRoute), which has brought the issue to a head. There’s some discussion on the Apple developer forums - https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/778671.

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fluidcruft7mo ago

That linked topic says Apple is working with the developer to handle it. I don't see any evidence of favoritism.

Fastmail clearly reached out to Apple eons ago, which is evidence of skill on fastmail's part and not favortism on Apple's part. Admittedly, fastmail very likely has lots of contacts in Apple (Jeremy Howard isn't nobody), but that's also a skill issue.

jarland7mo ago

Having friends inside of Apple that provide you with something no one else can obtain is a fairly decent definition of favoritism.

You cannot send Push notifications to the stock iOS Mail app no matter how hard you try. They can. There are functions inside of iOS that are made better because of this (auto copied 2FA codes, for example).

fluidcruft7mo ago

There's no evidence "nobody else can obtain" it. The parent's link to the Apple developer forum shows somebody else obtaining it. There's no evidence that MXroute couldn't do the same.

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admdlyOP7mo ago

Of the many email hosts out there, only a handful receiving special treatment with no route for others to even request the same is special treatment. In the case of Fastmail, they’ve had this access since 2015.

It’s also very interesting that Apple reached out to the user in the developer forum thread after they raised it as an EU DMA issue.

fluidcruft7mo ago

Why can't MXroute do exactly the same thing? Did they open a ticket?

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fluidcruft7mo ago

That linked topic says Apple is working with the developer to handle it. I don't see any evidence of favoritism.

jarland7mo ago

Having friends inside of Apple that provide you with something no one else can obtain is a fairly decent definition of favoritism.

fluidcruft7mo ago

There's no evidence "nobody else can obtain" it. The parent's link to the Apple developer forum shows somebody else obtaining it. There's no evidence that MXroute couldn't do the same.

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admdlyOP7mo ago

It’s also very interesting that Apple reached out to the user in the developer forum thread after they raised it as an EU DMA issue.

fluidcruft7mo ago

Why can't MXroute do exactly the same thing? Did they open a ticket?

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