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0 pointsjohncolanduoni9mo ago0 comments

That is for their enterprise SaaS, and has an obvious profit motive (I.e. bundling). Do you think Chrome is going to start charging for using their passkey storage and then kick all the other apps off Chrome?

> Even if there wasn't already an example, it's easy to turn control into a revenue stream at a later time.

I think you’ll have to justify or qualify this a bit. If Google forces every website on Chrome to have a red background, how do they turn that control into a revenue stream later on?

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63stack9mo ago

Saying "oh that's enterprise" is just moving the goal posts.

Chrome has already started kicking off extensions, see ublock.

I can't divine the future about how they will further their income streams.

johncolanduoniOP9mo ago

No it’s not. My goalpost from the beginning was “show me an example where there wasn’t a clear monetary incentive for restricting user freedom”. That one has a monetary incentive (make our paying customer for product X also buy product Y).

As for blocking things that block ads; if you can’t see the monetary incentive for Google there then I don’t know what to tell you.

I didn’t ask you to divine the future. I said “I’ve not seen them do X without trying to get Y” (a statement about the past), and you still haven’t given me a remotely credible example.

fc417fc8029mo ago

You will almost always be able to find a way to derive a monetary advantage from any given arbitrary restriction of user freedom. Thus your claimed goalposts are essentially pointless.

johncolanduoniOP9mo ago

Come on, I didn't come up with some 4D chess logic to impute a monetary advantage. In the examples people gave me, it was things like bundling (the oldest trick in the monopolist book) and ensuring that users look at your ads. Do you really think that if Chrome gets sued for blocking uBlock, that discovery won't find 1000 memos from executives and PMs at Google talking about how much money ensuring users have to see their ads would make?

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63stack9mo ago

Saying "oh that's enterprise" is just moving the goal posts.

Chrome has already started kicking off extensions, see ublock.

I can't divine the future about how they will further their income streams.

johncolanduoniOP9mo ago

As for blocking things that block ads; if you can’t see the monetary incentive for Google there then I don’t know what to tell you.

I didn’t ask you to divine the future. I said “I’ve not seen them do X without trying to get Y” (a statement about the past), and you still haven’t given me a remotely credible example.

fc417fc8029mo ago

You will almost always be able to find a way to derive a monetary advantage from any given arbitrary restriction of user freedom. Thus your claimed goalposts are essentially pointless.

johncolanduoniOP9mo ago

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