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0 pointsteiferer7mo ago0 comments

> With EVs, we might get some battery packs and drive trains actually lasting this long.

I doubt it. The components in modern cars are not made to last as long. Neither is the software. Ever tried a 15 year old Iphone? A Tesla won't feel much different.

Everything is meant to be consumed nowadays, and eventually, sooner rather than later, replaced.

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MBCook7mo ago

There was recently an article about someone with a 3 year old Ford Mustang Mach E with 250k miles (400k KM).

https://www.thedrive.com/news/meet-the-man-with-the-250000-m...

Battery is still over 90%. And given that he’s having to do a full charge every day for the amount he drives, that’s pretty impressive. Still on the original brake pads too.

Sounds like all he’s really had to do is put on new tires a couple of times.

cogman107mo ago

I have a 7 year old EV with 160k miles (250km).

Battery has just now dipped below 90% it's new range. Age is surprisingly a pretty big factor in how long the batteries will last. More so than a lot of other factors (including mileage).

benjiro7mo ago

And you get the luxury of paying 50% more, for that privilege (vs a ICE engine). I said it before, give me that BYD (reverse) hybrid engine, that does 1080km on a single tank.

Unfortunately, battery tech despite all the lab "super improvements" are not seeing any major gains in the field. And a lot of money has been going into that.

teifererOP7mo ago

The issue is not EV vs ICE. It's that things are not built to last or to be easily maintainable / serviceable. A modern car is not just like a smartphone you are sitting inside of, it's a server rack full of stuff. Of course that's outdated 1-2 decades from now and nobody is going to provide updated software anymore.

All things equal I'd even expect this to be worse with an ICE because of higher complexity, though the tech is more mature and stable at this point and the ICE manufacturing more traditionalist than the EV space.

speedgoose7mo ago

Are they affordable 4wd ICE with like 500hp and 500nm of torque, a flat torque curve, no lag, while still being smooth and reliable?

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