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0 pointsnailer7mo ago0 comments

> the standard lib still forces you to rely on endless npm dependencies

How? We have async/await file access, a async/await test runner, and even async/await sleep built in. What are you missing?

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pier257mo ago

> What are you missing?

Everything else needed to make a backend app.

At the very least, Node should provide fundamental pieces like database drivers. Currently the best PG driver[1] depends on a single guy.

Bun already provides its own PG driver [2] and Jarred has written they will keep investing into more built-in APIs.

[1] https://github.com/porsager/postgres

[2] https://bun.com/docs/api/sql

nailerOP7mo ago

> Currently the best PG driver[1] depends on a single guy.

Definitely a problem, but funding good Postgres/MongoDB/SQLite should be handled by AWS, Microsoft, Google, and other orgs that sell database services.

anarazel7mo ago

>> Currently the best PG driver[1] depends on a single guy.

> Definitely a problem, but funding good Postgres/MongoDB/SQLite should be handled by AWS, Microsoft, Google, and other orgs that sell database services.

A good chunk of PG development is done by employees of those companies (*). Of course they could (and probably should) always do more. But even if they invest more, it's not obvious that the marginal effort is best invested in some language's drivers...

Disclaimer: I'm paid by one of those big companies.

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pier257mo ago

Maybe. Doesn't change the fact that the problem is there.

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pier257mo ago

> What are you missing?

Everything else needed to make a backend app.

At the very least, Node should provide fundamental pieces like database drivers. Currently the best PG driver[1] depends on a single guy.

Bun already provides its own PG driver [2] and Jarred has written they will keep investing into more built-in APIs.

[1] https://github.com/porsager/postgres

[2] https://bun.com/docs/api/sql

nailerOP7mo ago

> Currently the best PG driver[1] depends on a single guy.

Definitely a problem, but funding good Postgres/MongoDB/SQLite should be handled by AWS, Microsoft, Google, and other orgs that sell database services.

anarazel7mo ago

>> Currently the best PG driver[1] depends on a single guy.

> Definitely a problem, but funding good Postgres/MongoDB/SQLite should be handled by AWS, Microsoft, Google, and other orgs that sell database services.

Disclaimer: I'm paid by one of those big companies.

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pier257mo ago

Maybe. Doesn't change the fact that the problem is there.

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