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0 pointsInsanity7mo ago0 comments

Modding and mapping were what made CS great in my opinion. Since CS:GO, Valve has been quietly killing that scene by making it harder and harder for people to find these game modes.

But to be honest, I think it's an artifact of our (or at least my) generation. I've played CS for thousands of hours, same with l4d and cod2/4, and I don't _need_ a battle pass, seasons, constant updates etc. Though when chatting with my ~14 year younger cousin about this some months ago, he said it'd be "boring to play a game that doesn't get updates". So.. different times :)

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Loudergood7mo ago

The disappearance of the ability to run your own Dedicated Server is a real tragedy.

deadbabe7mo ago

What games even let you run your own dedicated servers?

asabla7mo ago

Mostly AA and indie game titles. The simulator scene is still going strong with dedicated servers (like squad, arma, farming simulator, the hunter etc etc).

Larger titles swapped over to more control in order to extract more money from the players, but also control the experience.

There is however some AAA titles every now and then which support hosting your own servers. But they're quite few these days

password43217mo ago

Many PC-only games do, more likely to do so the older they are. The newest I'm familiar with is Valheim.

I'm actually looking for Android (Kindle) game recommendations that are cross platform and allow self-hosted servers.

Hikikomori7mo ago

Mostly non-AAA studio games. Then there's plenty of games with steam workshop or nexusmods support, even easier to mod these days as they use Unity or Unreal and you don't have to rely on an homegrown SDK release.

nkrisc7mo ago

These days? Not many. I’m sure there are some but probably one of the most popular that I’m aware of is Minecraft. There are quite a few custom server implementations alongside the official Java one.

ThatMedicIsASpy7mo ago

Battlebit, Valheim, Core Keeper, Minecraft, Enshrouded, Palworld, Ark

drabbiticus7mo ago

Given the thread, I'm assuming their mostly referring to CS 1.6, but games like Minecraft are another example.

bombcar7mo ago

Factorio and Minecraft.

sorushn7mo ago

Rust!

ivape7mo ago

Quietly? They monopolized the modding community. There is a universe where gamers could sell their weapon skins, but now only Valve sells their own skins. They killed modders.

InsanityOP7mo ago

Actually that's a really good point on the skins aspect. But I think the community might be in a better shape if the dedicated servers were easier to find.

I miss surf_greatriver and its variants :(

bigstrat20037mo ago

I don't think it's just "different times" as you put it. Those kids have had their brains ruined by companies' profit-maximization schemes. It makes me really angry (at these companies) and sad (for the kids) that they have been the victims of such a thing. Every generation before them could just enjoy things without needing endless novelty and updates, but they have apparently been robbed of that.

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