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0 pointsbccdee9mo ago0 comments

> Yes, but we are nowhere near this limits yet.

Says who?

> Given enough resources, we can have enough particle generators as there are particles in a car.

Given by whom? I said in practice—you can't just assume limitless resources.

> Except when the 300IQ thing is found by chance. When the system is reproducible and you aren't bound by resources, then a small chance means nothing.

We're bound by resources! Highly so! Stop trying to turn practical questions about what humans can actually accomplish into infinite-monkey-infinite-typewriter thought experiments.

> We don't think other humans are intelligent solely by their behaviour

I wouldn't say that, haha

> It's not about encoding the result of having understood. It's about the process of understanding itself.

A process can be encoded into data. Let's assume it takes X gigabytes to encode comprehension of how a hard drive array works. Since data storage does not grow significantly more complex with size (only physically larger), it stands to reason that an X-GB hard drive array can handily store the process for its own comprehension.

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17186274409mo ago

> Says who?

Because I think we haven't even started. Where is the proof based system able to invent every possible thought paradigm of humans a priori? I think we are so far away from anything like this, we can't even describe the limits. Maybe we will never have and never do.

> you can't just assume limitless resources

I assumed that, because the resource limits of a very rich human (meaning for whom money is never the limit) and the one true AI system are not different in my opinion.

> comprehension

Comprehension is already the result. But I don't think this is a sound definable concept, so maybe I should stop defending this.

bccdeeOP8mo ago

> Where is the proof based system able to invent every possible thought paradigm of humans a priori?

Beyond the realm of feasibility, I'd imagine. The gulf between what is theoretically possible and what is realistically doable is gargantuan.

> I assumed that, because the resource limits of a very rich human (meaning for whom money is never the limit)

The resources of a very rich human are extremely limited, in the grand scheme of things. They can only mobilize so much of the global economy, and even the entire global economy is only capable of doing so much. That's what I'm getting at: Just because there's some theoretical configuration of matter that would constitute a superintelligence, does not guarantee that humanity, collectively, is capable of producing it. Some things are just beyond us.

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