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0 pointspalata6mo ago0 comments

> The messages are mine, not theirs, and yet they refuse to allow me to handle them how I deem fit.

"They refuse to allow me" meaning "they don't add the features I want for free to the app they provide for free, so I complain".

The messages are yours, of course. But don't forget that you use their work for free. If you're not happy, go use the free work of someone else, I guess?

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Y-bar6mo ago

They are somewhat correct though, Signal has written code explicitly to prevent iOS users from including Signal data in Apple’s encrypted local and/or cloud backups.

Allowing encrypted backups was free for Signal, but they spent time and money to prevent it for iOS users.

Part of the code the wrote to prevent backups in question:

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/blob/5590f09c3643f12...

palataOP6mo ago

It would be interesting to have Signal's justification for that, but I can totally imagine that it is a security feature.

As in: they may not want their users to inadvertently share their Signal messages with Apple.

Y-bar6mo ago

Lot's of people have requested justification in related Github issues there, but Signal has not given a clear answer. If there was a security problem with the encryption process I believe a CVE or similar would have been in order because it would affect millions of users.

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0 pointspalata6mo ago0 comments

> The messages are mine, not theirs, and yet they refuse to allow me to handle them how I deem fit.

"They refuse to allow me" meaning "they don't add the features I want for free to the app they provide for free, so I complain".

The messages are yours, of course. But don't forget that you use their work for free. If you're not happy, go use the free work of someone else, I guess?

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Y-bar6mo ago

They are somewhat correct though, Signal has written code explicitly to prevent iOS users from including Signal data in Apple’s encrypted local and/or cloud backups.

Allowing encrypted backups was free for Signal, but they spent time and money to prevent it for iOS users.

Part of the code the wrote to prevent backups in question:

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/blob/5590f09c3643f12...

palataOP6mo ago

It would be interesting to have Signal's justification for that, but I can totally imagine that it is a security feature.

As in: they may not want their users to inadvertently share their Signal messages with Apple.

Y-bar6mo ago

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