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0 pointsmdhb6mo ago0 comments

Is there something special about you that has you convinced you’re not being tricked? Like do you think you have some exceptionally good bullshit detector? I’m genuinely curious about the mentality here.

What lead you to believe you can take two people like Tucker Carlson and MTG who are PRIMARILY known for spouting bullshit and you can somehow magically decipher the signal from the noise? Is it just the topic of Israel that you agree with them on? What are you actually comparing them against? I’d love to know more about what you’re describing looks like in practice because it sounds very handwavy at the moment and maybe it would be a better discussion with concrete details.

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austin-cheney6mo ago

Because in this case most politicians are performing double speak and failing to directly answer questions about recent Israel conduct. Many of these politicians claiming in private what most of us are seeing in the news. It is refreshing to have at least some politicians step up to the plate and directly speak to the numbers and multitude of evidence.

Likewise consider the opposite. Until recently I really respected Buttigieg, but when asked about Israel he cannot answer the question. He hopelessly looks for a moderate safe way out and it looks really incompetent.

mdhbOP6mo ago

Not trying to be rude but that answer is in no way related to the questions I was asking.

zahlman6mo ago

> Not trying to be rude

> do you think you have some exceptionally good bullshit detector?

> you can somehow magically decipher

It is abundantly clear that you are, in fact, trying to be rude.

> Be kind. Don't be snarky.

> Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

You were originally responding to:

> To consider his, or anyone else’s, honesty I compare what they say to the evidence they present and contrast that against competing claims from other sources.

Nothing about this requires extraordinary skill or "magic". Determining whether what Tucker Carlson said is true, works exactly the same way as determining whether what anyone else said is true.

austin-cheney6mo ago

I objectively answered your question to the best of my actual personal opinion. I just didn’t provide the subjectively baited answer you were hoping for.

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motorest6mo ago

> Because in this case most politicians are performing double speak and failing to directly answer questions about recent Israel conduct. Many of these politicians claiming in private what most of us are seeing in the news. It is refreshing to have at least some politicians step up to the plate and directly speak to the numbers and multitude of evidence.

Wait a minute, you were already faced with the fact that the likes of Tucker Carlson defend positions in public that they personally criticize and attack in less public settings.

And yet, even after being faced with that information, you still opt to ignore it and whitewash Russian assets such as Tucker Carlson as being this paragon of objectivity?

I'm starting to wonder what you are trying to do with this thread.

austin-cheney6mo ago

So is he lying about his opinions on Israel? I don’t know. If you are actually interested in finding out then go do that.

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austin-cheney6mo ago

mdhbOP6mo ago

Not trying to be rude but that answer is in no way related to the questions I was asking.

zahlman6mo ago

> Not trying to be rude

> do you think you have some exceptionally good bullshit detector?

> you can somehow magically decipher

It is abundantly clear that you are, in fact, trying to be rude.

> Be kind. Don't be snarky.

> Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

You were originally responding to:

> To consider his, or anyone else’s, honesty I compare what they say to the evidence they present and contrast that against competing claims from other sources.

Nothing about this requires extraordinary skill or "magic". Determining whether what Tucker Carlson said is true, works exactly the same way as determining whether what anyone else said is true.

austin-cheney6mo ago

I objectively answered your question to the best of my actual personal opinion. I just didn’t provide the subjectively baited answer you were hoping for.

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motorest6mo ago

Wait a minute, you were already faced with the fact that the likes of Tucker Carlson defend positions in public that they personally criticize and attack in less public settings.

And yet, even after being faced with that information, you still opt to ignore it and whitewash Russian assets such as Tucker Carlson as being this paragon of objectivity?

I'm starting to wonder what you are trying to do with this thread.

austin-cheney6mo ago

So is he lying about his opinions on Israel? I don’t know. If you are actually interested in finding out then go do that.

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